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It was something like that, and poorly done. Tesla made higher margins but has nothing to show to the customers. Like many have said they should have stuck with the same AP price, promised AP1 parity soon and then sell further features when they were available. Lets see if they learned with the Model 3 launch
@JonMc I would settle for either a) 350mile range, b) 20 min 80%, or c) a supercharger in my country. Well, need a service center too still, with current track records
@Tiger Superchargers are growing quickly in Europe, specially the periphery. Spain is getting hit now, soon Portugal on the mediterranean side, haven't looked how eastern Europe is coming along. Once you live with the car you will understand my wants. I would say that the 20% charging is the most important item. The 300 miles of my current 90D is pretty good, but because of the supercharge every trip is at least an hour longer than with an ICE. Sometimes you have to charge but it isn't an ideal rest stop, so you end up charging wasting time and then having to drive another hour or so to stop and rest.
Some people have no shame in saying "I'm getting screwed but I don't mind because its Elon's stick and it's cool"
*barf*
You have a point - on the other hand I'd like to see a per capita statistic on disillusioned owners - then compare it to the per capital number from three years ago and also compare it to that of other auto makers. There are also a lot more Tesla owners than 3 years ago.
Tesla did not promise me a time frame. I knew that when i paid my $3K. Look - I'm a tough bastard in the business side of my life but wrt my Tesla it was obvious what I'm buying for $3K and that there are no guarantees. It's just fun money. I'd be a fool if I thought otherwise.
@AnxietyRanger - regardless of the past year I think we can agree that AP2 will be far ahead of where it is now, a year from now. The idea that they won't deliver significant continued software progress over the next 12 months is unlikely (not that you were claiming otherwise - I know you weren't). Personally I'm satisfied knowing that the main board is swappable when more tflops are needed and that we have 360 camera coverage to feed the board + hundreds of thousands of Model 3 buyers coming on board to provide continued pressure for progress. Finally add in the fact that autopilot appears to be musk's top priority. I've seen real learning over the past two releases since I turned on video uploading (car no longer tries to kill me at a spot where it always did before).
Here is some data we can check in December:
Tesla crushes Consumer Reports Owner Satisfaction ranking again – 91% would buy again, 2nd and 3rd at 84% and 77%
We'll see if the numbers hold.
Tesla crushes Consumer Reports Owner Satisfaction ranking again – 91% would buy again, 2nd and 3rd at 84% and 77%
We'll see if the numbers hold.
This is typical tesla alternative facts where tesla has done it already but are just waiting to release it.
Like seriously? Dont yall get tired of these talking point and constant excuses?
Heres what elon is gonna do. Hes gonna hype up fsd some more as though they are on the verge and ready to release. Infact as thiugh its already released and comes with your model 3 if you add fsd options.
He will bring out model 3 cars running on demo fsd software with tesla engineers in the driver seat and they will turn on autopilot in a restricted closed street course and then claim...
voila there there model 3 is a fsd car.
Configurations are now available online.
The media will carry it like gospel and poor working class folks will be swindled out of $8,000 dollars in masses
The emperor has no clothes and they love it!
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Haha, apparently it was a little more well covered than I remembered. I do remember the Electrek article as they cover just about everything that comes across.
What I think is interesting is the tweet doesn't really tell us a whole lot, and yet at least in case of Forbes the writer assumes Elon was referring to FSD capabilities. Versus the idea that FSD owners would start receiving some additional capabilities from EAP owners. Like additional cameras being turned on or something like that.
What I personally find a bit baffling is why there still isn't any kind of 360 birdeyes view. Clearly the car has the capability of it, and I wouldn't think it would take much to implement. Why didn't they do that just to throw a bone to owners of EAP/FSD.
We know they have birdseye view in developer mode so technically the car is capable.
Reluctance might be related to it not being a very good one, though I would still welcome it and hope it gets released.
It being black and white plus red is not the biggest issue. The biggest are the large blindspots of the windshield and B pillar cameras. AP2 does not see 360 around the nose on ground level. Competing 360 systems nowadays do.
So... the car you like most in the entire world for yourself is the same one you do nothing but hate on every single day publicly. You must have amazing interpersonal relationships.
For the record, I don't hate the car, I hate the company that made it.
Actually fraud, intent to deceive. You are being too kind.
I really thought this car was going to be driving me around very comfortably by Christmas 2016. That's the whole reason I bought the car. I had no reason to doubt those claims based on track record of AP1, highly increased sensor suite, full self driving video, etc.
I did not know much about Tesla before this. So yes, I got scammed, unlike those of you who realized Tesla lies a lot about its capabilities.
I guess that's fair. I tend to think everyone here is a "hobbyist" level follower of AI developments and also steals when that is not the case. I also have so much personal history with expensive cars that I guess I have internalized that heartache breakdowns disappointment are par for the course. My Teslas are so low maintenance and so close to delivering what they promise compared to the things I've owned prior that Im just delighted with them and don't car much aboutbElons promises. But if one is coming from the likes of Lexus then expectations would be different.
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