EM confirms autopilot hardware on X and S are the same

[brianman]

I'd disagree too because the front and rear motors are different.

On the 85D?

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Two side by side cameras would use the same hardware, but not the same software.

They also might use different hardware at the attachment point of the cameras -- i.e. you have to actually be able to plug in both at once, presumably.

 

[travwill]

They've gotta keep cost down for now, X & S are the same platform. III likely will have this level of AP as well or maybe in ~3 years when it finally launches it could have AP2. But I don't really expect more autonomously capable AP2 until the next generation of S/X platform roles out - say 2020ish. But, the S & X until then are still going to be relatively high-tech for the next 4-5 years ;-)

 

[gizmoboy]

They've gotta keep cost down for now, X & S are the same platform. III likely will have this level of AP as well or maybe in ~3 years when it finally launches it could have AP2. But I don't really expect more autonomously capable AP2 until the next generation of S/X platform roles out - say 2020ish. But, the S & X until then are still going to be relatively high-tech for the next 4-5 years ;-)

"Relatively high-tech," yes, but neither class-leading nor state of the art...

I don't think they can sit on their hands, hardware-wise, for 3-5 years.

 

[Andyw2100]

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What if Musk's response included a small typo, and he really intended to type "some" instead?

That would change things a bit, huh?

 

[gizmoboy]

What if Musk's response included a small typo, and he really intended to type "some" instead?

That would change things a bit, huh?

Or perhaps me he meant to type "lame".

 

[Rafik]

What if Musk's response included a small typo, and he really intended to type "some" instead?

That would change things a bit, huh?

Hilarity ensues - that would be quite comical, indeed. If it later comes to light that they're not the same, you just gave him an out :biggrin:

 

[stevej119]

Hilarity ensues - that would be quite comical, indeed. If it later comes to light that they're not the same, you just gave him an out :biggrin:

Enough time has passed by now that he would have retracted that tweet were it not factually correct.

 

[MsElectric]

The hardware on the S and the X are the same. This statement would still be true if the X happens to have additional hardware

So the S and the X can have the same hardware as in ultrasonic, single front camera, and front radar. But that does not preclude the X from having additional cameras or sensors

We already know that at the least the X has dual facing front cameras while the current S only has one.

 

[gizmoboy]

The hardware on the S and the X are the same. This statement would still be true if the X happens to have additional hardware

So the S and the X can have the same hardware as in ultrasonic, single front camera, and front radar. But that does not preclude the X from having additional cameras or sensors

We already know that at the least the X has dual facing front cameras while the current S only has one.

We don't know that, do we? We have one photo from which pixel detectives have concluded has dual cameras in it, but which is highly circumstantial and may be irrelevant in any case.

There are multiple founders out there with actual cars in their hands, and one (Mark) is somewhat active on the board; we can definitively determine that there are not (or are) dual cameras on the X pretty easily. (And it seems to have been settled that there are not.)

 

[Max*]

The hardware on the S and the X are the same. This statement would still be true if the X happens to have additional hardware

So the S and the X can have the same hardware as in ultrasonic, single front camera, and front radar. But that does not preclude the X from having additional cameras or sensors

We already know that at the least the X has dual facing front cameras while the current S only has one.

You're grasping at straws. EM said the hardware AND capabilities are the same. The founders Model X did not have dual cameras, only the website.

Is it coming? 100% yes, is it here now? I doubt it.

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We don't know that, do we? We have one photo from which pixel detectives have concluded has dual cameras in it, but which is highly circumstantial and may be irrelevant in any case.

There are multiple founders out there with actual cars in their hands, and one (Mark) is somewhat active on the board; we can definitively determine that there are not (or are) dual cameras on the X pretty easily. (And it seems to have been settled that there are not.)

I resemble that remark. And it's clear that it has dual cameras on the webpage, no detective work needed. This was proven inaccurate based on photos of the founders cars at the release.

 

[Vitold]

Were there any differences on October 10? Nnone. However, lets not forget that Tesla is making 20 changes per week.

Personally, I think Tesla wants to make as many cars as possible and will not make any changes to Autopilot right now.