Email from TAPTES really promoting a weighted ring to fool AP ???

[Torokruger]

Just got a promotional email from taptes and couldnt believe they are actually promoting a magnetic weight to fool Autopilot

TAPTES Model 3 Y Counterweight Ring Autopilot Accessories, Automatic Assisted Driving AP FSD Steering Wheel Weight Booster

TAPTES Model 3 Model Y steering wheel auxiliary booster assists you to control the steering wheel, so you can take a break while driving. A great addition to long driving travel [SHORTDESCRIPTION]

www.taptes.com

 

[Medved_77]

It's fine. By the time Taptes deliver it to you FSD will be in it's 99th iteration with no human intervention required.

 

[Tony Hoyle]

72 quid for a weight..

 

[speedyranger74]

It's so strange?
Let me guess... you don't have FSD!

 

[KennethS]

In my view it is irresponsible to use one of those and even more irresponsible to market them for sale.

 

[MrBadger]

In my view it is irresponsible to use one of those and even more irresponsible to market them for sale.

I agree.

Before anyone reports this thread, I had previously raised this type of product/hack with TMC Admin in a different thread and they view open discussion of this type of product/hack more useful than removing any reference to any products/hacks. Otherwise, with moderator hat on, the reference to this product/hack would be gone.

For avoidance of doubt. Removal of hands from the steering wheel whilst driving, such as facilitated by this type of hack/product would be 100% illegal in this country and 101% dangerous anywhere.

 

[Horatio Alger]

Product seems to have been removed from the TAPTES site- 404 error on loading. Maybe they've realised the potential for reputational damage that selling it might generate.

 

[arnolddeleon]

Product seems to have been removed from the TAPTES site- 404 error on loading. Maybe they've realised the potential for reputational damage that selling it might generate.

Too late, I've unsubscribed from their list and will never buy from them again

 

[Alistairuk]

Does this even work in the EU cars?

I know in the US they used to be able to fool the car by sticking an orange or soft ball against the wheel and the spoke (?) as it only checked for pressure. Not sure if that’s still possible in US models but the EU ones require you to move or resist slightly the autopilot - would be interesting to see if the weight actually does it...

If people really want to bypass it then they will find a way but suprised a company would openly market a product to bypass a safety feature / requirement.

 

[speedyranger74]

Saints everywhere!
I received the same email... nobody forced me to buy it...

 

[Tony Hoyle]

Does this even work in the EU cars?

I know in the US they used to be able to fool the car by sticking an orange or soft ball against the wheel and the spoke (?) as it only checked for pressure. Not sure if that’s still possible in US models but the EU ones require you to move or resist slightly the autopilot - would be interesting to see if the weight actually does it...

If people really want to bypass it then they will find a way but suprised a company would openly market a product to bypass a safety feature / requirement.

Simply resting your hand offcentre is enough to remove the nags so a weight would have no issues as it's essentially the same thing. I doubt it's any different to US cars.

 

[Durzel]

For me not having a hand on the wheel is like not having a seatbelt on. I feel weird about it, almost like I'm doing it to prove some kind of stupid point.

It doesn't seem like a massive burden to me to hold the wheel with your thumb, which keeps AP happy, whilst still having the ability to react quickly in the event of some weird event.

 

[Plagued]

Saints everywhere!
I received the same email... nobody forced me to buy it...

it's effectively a device that could cause death or serious injury. It's sole purpose is to bypass safety features. You're allowed to be upset and angry by someone selling or promoting something you disagree with irrespective of whether you're going to buy it.
I wouldn't want anyone to be using this on the road. When the car is capable devices like this won't be needed.

 

[Alex987854]

Reports on the internet that it's been withdrawn, The page on the site seems to have gone.

 

[init6]

Before I got my car I searched for accessories and this came up quite a lot in Amazon and eBay. Not having the car I couldn't understand what it was for. Would be good is a(n apparently) well know vendor has removed it from sale. Doesn't do their image any good otherwise.

 

[init6]

For me not having a hand on the wheel is like not having a seatbelt on. I feel weird about it, almost like I'm doing it to prove some kind of stupid point.

When I had auto-park on my BMW I had to sit on my hand to resist the temptation to grab the steering wheel. Even AP feels strange.

 

[speedyranger74]

it's effectively a device that could cause death or serious injury. It's sole purpose is to bypass safety features. You're allowed to be upset and angry by someone selling or promoting something you disagree with irrespective of whether you're going to buy it.
I wouldn't want anyone to be using this on the road. When the car is capable devices like this won't be needed.

I agree with you!
Could cause... but in witch scenario? Of course the driver have to be behind of wheel and pay attention!

When I come out of the house COULD: I can stumble over something ... I fall head over heels or the corner of the house and that's it.

It's very likely someone else hit my car, than my car hit others cars( with FSD actived)... this is from my almost 15k miles with FSD.

So in what kind of scenario this ring is dangerous? (How I tell: driver behind the wheel and pay attention!)
I don't use this ring... 2 bananas until I get hungry: ))))

 

[nxsynjs]

I thought modern hands-on wheel detection (inc Tesla) was capacitive not weight based. I.e it knows if there is a living person's hand on the wheel and when there is just pressure.

 

[Tony Hoyle]

Wheels are plastic/leather.. capacitance would be hard to make work - although apparently Mercedes have one coming out in 2021.

I expect eye tracking will be mainstream soon negating the issue somewhat (Tesla is already testing it).

 

[MrBadger]

Wheels are plastic/leather.. capacitance would be hard to make work - although apparently Mercedes have one coming out in 2021.

Isn't the VW ID.3 wheel capacitive?