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Energy Cost?

Discussion in 'Model 3: Battery & Charging' started by 1.21GW, Jul 26, 2018.

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What is your total electric energy cost per kWh from the grid while charging your car?

  1. <$0.08

    7 vote(s)
    9.7%
  2. $0.08-$0.119

    25 vote(s)
    34.7%
  3. $0.12-$0.159

    17 vote(s)
    23.6%
  4. $0.16-$199

    3 vote(s)
    4.2%
  5. $0.20-$0.239

    6 vote(s)
    8.3%
  6. $0.24-$0.279

    3 vote(s)
    4.2%
  7. >$0.28

    3 vote(s)
    4.2%
  8. I have solar

    8 vote(s)
    11.1%
  1. 1.21GW

    1.21GW Member

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    My current electricity plan is $0.095/ kWh, but after adding the transmission charges and such, its $0.152 / kWh

    It seems high to me, especially for being in Michigan. I wanted to know what you are paying. I'm sure our California members wont have any sympathy for me..
     
  2. ItsNotAboutTheMoney

    ItsNotAboutTheMoney Well-Known Member

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    CMP area (Southern Maine, majority of Maine population):
    Delivery portion details: Maine: CMP Delivery Rate Changes 7/1/2017 since July 2018
    Standard offer for the supply/energy for 2018 is: $0.0792063
    Tax is 5.5% (standard sales tax rate) on any use during a billing cycle over 750kWh.

    So $/kWh:
    Marginal net flat: $0.155655017
    Marginal net A-TOU (peak/shoulder, off-peak): $0.196028812, $0.137340217
    Marginal net A-TOU-OPTS (peak, shoulder/off-peak): $0.279138547, $0.117033577

    I'm ~85% shoulder/off-peak so A-TOU-OPTS works for me.
     
  3. SSonnentag

    SSonnentag Supporting Member

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    Winter (November-April billing cycles)
    all kWh $0.09417


    Summer (May-October billing cycles)
    1-400 kWh $0.09687
    401-800 kWh $0.13817
    801-3000 kWh $0.16167
    3001 kWh and up $0.17257


    But with solar overproduction, our monthly bill is the minimum $10-$11.
     
  4. Rockster

    Rockster Active Member

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    Electrical coop. I have solar but it only offsets 2/3 of my usage. The rate varies by billing cycle but my four year average rate is $0.10/kWh.
     
  5. eprosenx

    eprosenx Member

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    I think my fees have changed a little since I put together this spreadsheet (this was earlier in the year), but here is the gist of what I pay on Portland General Electric in Oregon. A little over 10c per kWh not including the basic meter fee.

    I actually don't know if there are different tiers of costs - I have never gone over them (though I may now with my car).

    Also, I have 1:1 net metering that rolls month to month (resets to zero once per year if you don't use it all up - but I always use it up)

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  6. miltymoots

    miltymoots Member

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    Here’s SDGE in San Diego on my current plan (not an EV plan). This is average with all the other stuff added, but still amazingly high!

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  7. psyrob

    psyrob Member

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    Burbank Water and Power, (California), is .11 cents per kwh for first 300, then .16 after that. There is a TOU plan, .08 cents kwh from midnight to 7 am but .26 cents from 4 to 7 pm during the summer and .16 all other hours. Have the wife and kids unable to keep the AC high from 4 to 7 so I didn't go for the TOU plan.
     
  8. jamnmon66

    jamnmon66 Member

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    United Power in Colorado. $0.06/kwh off peak.
     
  9. DOCAL

    DOCAL Member

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    I think you're using Verizon math.

    It's 11 cents for the first 300 kWh, not .11 cents.
     
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  10. psyrob

    psyrob Member

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    LOL, yes, if only it was .11 cents...Burbank TOU is complicated, kind of like figuring out the charges in a PPO insurance plan (co-pays, co-insurance, deductibles, etc.).
     
  11. tivoboy

    tivoboy Member

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    Those rates seem really high. I'm surprised they are that much higher than up here in the Bay Area with PG&E.

    My Tier 1 rates which only go up to about 350kwh usage are .179 and Tier 2 which is up the 200% of Tier 1 (I think might be 400%) is only .28kwh.
     
  12. Rocky_H

    Rocky_H Active Member

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    I am so happy when I see people that remember it was called Verizon Math.
     
  13. DOCAL

    DOCAL Member

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    I cringed so hard when listening to the recording, I'll remember it for life.
     
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  14. miltymoots

    miltymoots Member

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    its average with all the added crap. At raw level the rates are:

    Tier 1: $0.09311/kWh
    Tier 2: $0.29722 /kWh
     
  15. gilscales

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    #15 gilscales, Aug 6, 2018
    Last edited: Aug 6, 2018
    either .13 or .14 from 10pm to 8am super off peak tou charges, .14 is 8 months a year on winter rate and .13 is for summer rates, not sure what the transmission charges and all other charges bring it up to? never looked a lot at that, I think our average kWh costs all in are around .18 to .20 on the average bill because we use so much on super off peak ,overall with 3 levels on tou we do save a lot of money as we average 2000 to 2500 kWh month and we have a very low percentage of on peak charges (like less than 10%) so compared to our old tiered plans where 80% of our energy seemed to be on tier 5 or .37 per kWh, the SCE TOU-B plan works great, for high energy users in SoCal (on SCE) here is the plan

    https://www.sce.com/wps/wcm/connect/99ceaef3-56e0-482f-9984-a584b84216dd/TOU-D-B+Pricing-and-Time-Periods-010117_AA.pdf?MOD=AJPERES
     
  16. Bobbo8

    Bobbo8 Member

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    I’m lucky enough to have a “municipal non profit electric utility”, my rate is an unbelievable $.0368 per KWH. To charge my Model 3 310 mile battery is roughly $3.30. My TESLA keeps looking better and better.
     
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  17. eprosenx

    eprosenx Member

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    Wow that is crazy... you need to get into bit coin mining!

    Is that hydro owned by the utility?
     
  18. Bobbo8

    Bobbo8 Member

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    The municipal electric company buys hydro but again it is non profit so they keep the cost down.
     
  19. NickHoffmann

    NickHoffmann Member

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    Hilliard, Ohio
    $0.085/kWh generation. $0.132/kWh with all fees and transmission costs. Ohio.
     

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