Engie Australian EV charging network

[moa999]

First article I've come across on Engie, who was one of the big winners in the latest Arena funding round that focuses on cities, winning grants for 100 sites.

Engie to roll out more than 100 EV fast chargers in major population centres

International energy giant Engie to roll out more than 100 EV stations in and around capital cities, and is also looking at vehicle-to-grid.

thedriven.io

To be rolled out by Jetcharge. Not clear if they will use Chargefox for billing (related to Jetcharge) or yet another app.

Looks like it will just be the minimum of 2x50kW stations.

Overseas they have a bunch of chargers in and around Leeds in the UK (that are free for up to 75min, until October 2021). Many located at Asda supermarkets.

Welcome to GeniePoint | GeniePoint

ENGIE Chargepoint Network forms part of GeniePoint Network

ev.engie.co.uk

 

[Chuq]

Thanks for the thread @moa999! Yes, I had the same thought about Chargefox when I saw the JetCharge relationship mentioned.

 

[moa999]

Looks like Engie have been trawling Plugshare entries for regular chargers, and are setting up some quick chats with people to better understand what people what from a charging network.

 

[PC__LoadLetter]

Looks like Engie have been trawling Plugshare entries for regular chargers, and are setting up some quick chats with people to better understand what people what from a charging network.

Yep. I noted in my appointment a forewarning that I'm opinionated

 

[doggy1]

The "chats" are 30 minute Zoom sessions, so probably quite comprehensive. They seem to be making a big effort to maximise (prospective) customer input.

 

[moa999]

Looks like they are going to use the brand name Surge - Surge

Some 2nd round discussions taking place soon.

 

[Chuq]

I'm guessing you found that link on an Engie site? I can't see anything on it that specifies it as Engie.

 

[Chuq]

A bit more detail!

Major Australian shopping centre network to install EV chargers

Engie to install fast-charging stations across network of shoppng centres owned by Vicinity.

thedriven.io

Major Australian shopping centre network Vicinity Centres, which operates big-name centres such as Chadstone and Myer Bourke Street in Victoria, and Queen Victoria Building and Chatswood Chase in Sydney, will add EV charging stations at up to 30 of igts centres across the country.

Vicinity has partnered with French energy company Engie as part of the Australian Renewable Energy Agency’s (ARENA) Future Fuels fund to deliver EV fast-charging stations into carparks across its national portfolio of over 60 shopping centres.

The new partnership, billed as a first of its kind in Australia, is expected to result in one of the most important electric vehicle charging infrastructure programs in Australia, leveraging Vicinity’s numerous shopping centres around the country to roll EV charging at up to 30 centres.

 

[PC__LoadLetter]

Woohoo! Vicinity Centres own Roselands and Bankstown Square - both of which are south of the latte line!

 

[Wol747]

Looks like they are going to use the brand name Surge - Surge

Some 2nd round discussions taking place soon.

Makes one wonder about plugging in an expensive motor to a charger named "Surge"!

 

[moa999]

Looks like Surge is more going to be a brand for some associated services Engie are looking at.

Another article here.

Electric car fast charging network headed for Australian shopping centres

Some of Australia's most well-known shopping centres are set to adopt more electric vehicle fast chargers during the next two years ... but they'll come at a cost.

www.drive.com.au

Only 30 Vicinity centres - so about half the portfolio.
Commencing late 2021/early 2022 but up to two years.

Interesting the article states 120kW chargers.
Possibly suggests they will be using ABB products.

ABB Terra124 DC Fast Charger | 120 kW - EVSE Australia

The Terra124 DC Fast Charging solutions provides up to 120kW (up to 200A) continuous DC Fast Charging via CCS2 and can charge two EV's simultaneously at 60kW each Great for the office, commercial applications or roadside Charging Speed - 120 kW (800km of range per hour of charge) 90 kW, 120...

evse.com.au

 

[meloccom]

Oh YAY! Another charging service account to sign up to.

 

[Chuq]

Only 30 Vicinity centres - so about half the portfolio.

Two of Electric Highway Tasmania's sites are the only two Vicinity centres in Tas. There might be a few other one off centres that host chargers run by others. So slightly less than half Engie, but slightly more than half altogether

 

[Hairyman]

Oh YAY! Another charging service account to sign up to.

I‘ve nearly got a full Bridge hand of RFID cards, just a couple more…

 

[moa999]

Oh YAY! Another charging service account to sign up to.

Time will tell. Jetcharge is their rollout partner, so hopefully they decide to use Chargefox for billing.
Equally I'd hope that Ampol use Evie given the existing relationship.

 

[technerdx6000]

Interesting the article states 120kW chargers.
Possibly suggests they will be using ABB products.

ABB Terra124 DC Fast Charger | 120 kW - EVSE Australia

The Terra124 DC Fast Charging solutions provides up to 120kW (up to 200A) continuous DC Fast Charging via CCS2 and can charge two EV's simultaneously at 60kW each Great for the office, commercial applications or roadside Charging Speed - 120 kW (800km of range per hour of charge) 90 kW, 120...

evse.com.au

Only 200A. Max 80kW for Teslas @ 400V

 

[AussieOwner]

There was a thread about this on Reddit. The shopping centres whilst appreciated only make up about 30 or so compared to the thousands in Victoria alone. We need bigger players like Stockland (huge presence in Regional Victoria) to sign up and this will then really take off.

 

[Hairyman]

Stockland in Newcastle and Maitland had ChargePoint chargers and separate Tesla chargers, so there may be some hope. Although I’m not sure how they feel after ChargePoint pulled out

 

[moa999]

7 months since the Vicinity/ Engie announcement, and we are still yet to see a site, versus the stated "few months".

Vicinity Partners with ENGIE to introduce electric car chargers | Vicinity Centres

Vicinity is one of Australia’s leading retail property groups, reimagining the way Australians live, work and play.

www.vicinity.com.au

Hopefully one pops up soon.

On apps - in the UK they have a Genie point app, so could have similar here
(And also seems that Ampol will be using its own app AmpCharge)

 

[moa999]

Just thought I'd bump this thread..
It's now 12 months since the Engie/Vicinity announcements, and still waiting for the first site.