Enhanced autopilot just as good as self driving ? Upgrade to self driving worth it ?

[creekcrosser]

Estimates on when regulations would allow for it ? Is it worth the extra cost ?

 

[RedMS]

No.

 

[Moderatefan]

Relying on AP=death sentence. If AP has trouble, it beeps. If you ignore the beep, the chances are you will be in an accident.

 

[Derek Kessler]

Today EAP exists and does stuff. FSD does nothing. It will eventually, but today it does absolutely nothing.

As for regulations... that's impossible to say. As more vehicles come to market with features or such capability, the law will catch up.

 

[Tam]

...Is it worth the extra cost...

1) Autopilot can be fatal if not used as instructed.

It has many limitations that are listed in the owner's manual.

But I love using it for over a year since March 2017!

2) Autopilot will get better but it is designed to never achieve Self-driving unless you want to pay more.

Tesla self-driving has not been activated so there's no way knowing how it will be able to fulfill advertised promises.

3) At least there are 3 states that allow Self-Driving without a human driver and these are not for testing purpose only but for general use:

Florida, Michigan, Georgia

California now allows testing of self-driving cars without a human driver in the car BUT a human must be able to remotely control the car at all times.

4) If you know how to babysit Autopilot then the price is worth it.

If you want to donate for Self-driving cause and want to be among the early adopters to witness its incremental progress in future, it's worth it.

 

[vinnie97]

As for question #2, it's too soon to say. Let's see if the planned cross-country FSD Tesla experiment comes to fruition later this year (it's been delayed at least once already) for starters.

 

[bnsfengineer]

Why would you purchase in advance to an uncertain date??? Just pay the extra 1k if it ever unfolds!!

 

[S4WRXTTCS]

Today EAP exists and does stuff. FSD does nothing. It will eventually, but today it does absolutely nothing.

As for regulations... that's impossible to say. As more vehicles come to market with features or such capability, the law will catch up.

EAP exist only in the extent that it's mostly feature parity with AP1.

It's missing all of the Enhanced features.

 

[jsmay311]

If AP has trouble, it beeps. If you ignore the beep, the chances are you will be in an accident.

It can get you into an accident without any beeping.

They said, I only have limited experience with AP on a test drive. Apart from (1) the usual/periodic "keep hands on wheel" reminders and (2) disengagement notifications, when else will it beep at you?

 

[davidc18]

There is no FSD, so no, no one should pre pay and "trust" Tesla will deliver. Been down that road way to many times.

 

[gearchruncher]

They haven't even added a single feature to EAP in the last 10 months, and a 2018 car still doesn't do as much as a 2014 car, even though AP on a 2014 car was $2,000 and "EAP" is $5,000 . It's insanity to pay $3,000 now assuming Tesla will get to FSD before your car wears out.

None of this has to do with regulations. Tesla has no code to drive the car by itself. They can't even read a speed limit sign right now, much less stop at a stop sign or red light.

If you do get EAP, please be careful. It WILL kill you if you don't pay attention.

 

[bnsfengineer]

Why is this even a topic if there is no such thing to date??

 

[gearchruncher]

Why is this even a topic if there is no such thing to date??

Because Tesla will sell it to you for $3K right now on a new car, but "warns" you that it will be $4K after delivery. So they are tempting people to buy it now, without telling them just how tenuous or far away it is. All they say is "pending regulatory approval"