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Enhanced autopilot released for Australia and New Zealand
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diplomat33
Average guy who loves autonomous vehicles
That's good news. I still think that "FSD" should have just been called "Enhanced Autopilot" from the start. It would have avoided some unnecessary controversy.
Depends on what they price it at. Personally, I am expecting tesla to sell "Enhanced autopilot" at the same price we used to pay to get the full FSD (and the upgrades it came with it).
Spitballing a number, I expect them to charge either 7 or 8k for it here in the US, and it will be interesting to see both what the reception to that would be (especially considering that tesla does not have to offer a thing more under EAP than it does right now) and what it does to any subscriptions, etc.
Wait, all we have on this is Elon said "Ok"? That's even more abstract than "two weeks"! Not holding my breath.
Well they have been rolling it out for other countries and while that doesn't mean it will get to everyone I have to think that's a good sign it's going to happen.
It should not be called Full Self Driving. Autopilot is acceptable to me because in an aircraft the pilot still has to monitor everything and take over when necessary. Standard AP, Enhanced AP, and Full AP would be a better way to market this IMO.
"Standard AP, Enhanced AP, and Full AP"
I would go further: Highway AP, Highway AP Enhanced, Street AP
BTW, I expected the EAP coming back for all to happen at a moment when they might need a short boost to their financial statements. With China shutdown the Q2 results will be mediocre. Elon wants a hot Q3 to make the Twitter deal happen.
I would go further: Highway AP, Highway AP Enhanced, Street AP
BTW, I expected the EAP coming back for all to happen at a moment when they might need a short boost to their financial statements. With China shutdown the Q2 results will be mediocre. Elon wants a hot Q3 to make the Twitter deal happen.
All I want is auto lane change...that would not be worth 7k for me and not sure I would use the other functions. THought I read Kia EV6 does auto lane changes now...should come standard with autopilot or for a much smaller fee than 7k.
Silicon Desert
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yes, I would go a bit further and even eliminate the word "Autopilot". I'd use other terminology like "Assisted Driving" or some other phrase that doesn't imply the car is going to do everything for me without monitoring from me.
RTPEV
Active Member
Was going to say the exact same thing.
While I eventually would love to have a full FSD solution, I still think that is far off. In the meantime, if I can't have my car drive me on long road trips overnight while I sleep, or earn me money as a robotaxi, then all I really want is autosteer, TACC, and auto lane change. And I'm certainly not willing to pay $6K for that (even though I did pay $5K for it when I bought my Tesla, but that was back before Elon destroyed his credibility by promising FSD would be there "next year" and we actually believed him), especially when it still has issues vis-à-vis the competition.
And auto lane change is nice, but the way my wife's ID4 handles lane changes is that when it's in the equivalent of autosteer mode, if you manually change lanes, it will automatically acquire the new lane and continue to autosteer, so it's not that bad. You don't have to disengage/re-engage AP to do a lane change.
BitJam
Active Member
I'd like EAP to include "ding when the light turns green". I had this feature with standard AP when I bought my car almost a year ago. Turns out it was a mistake and Tesla disabled it in a OTA update.
If EAP come back, it only suggests to me that true FSD is still WAY off in the future.
AlanSubie4Life
Efficiency Obsessed Member
Looking at other websites, New Zealand for example, it looks like FSD is double the price of EAP.
So seems like $6k for EAP (presumably upgradeable to FSD for something like an additional $7k-$8k after purchase?), or $12k for FSD, would be rough starting points in the US unless this comes with an overall price hike (seems doubtful with the current state of FSD).
Though overall price of FSD in these other markets is lower right now, so perhaps the ratio would be different? Or maybe if they're snagging more people with EAP they'll lower the overall FSD price again (though Elon said they would never do that I think, so probably not).
Anyway $6k seems like a lot of money to pay for auto lane change, NOA, Autopark (which doesn't really work in any useful way), Summon, and Smart Summon (which of course doesn't work though it was the most viral feature ever). But I guess I paid about the same ($5k) so here we are.
One of the best features of FSD, and unquestionably useful in spite of the false positives, though I don't think it was worth $3k. Should have paid $2k for it when I had the chance though.
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boonedocks
MS LR Blk/Blk 19”
If EAP is anything over $5,000 then @elonmusk is showing the true value of Full FSD……not a lot……and anything less will nerf FSD buyin.
I have been renting FSD on my 2021 S after having paid for FSD on three other Teslas. I would drop to $99 a month in a heartbeat for EAP. Might even buyin at $4k if that was offered.
I have been renting FSD on my 2021 S after having paid for FSD on three other Teslas. I would drop to $99 a month in a heartbeat for EAP. Might even buyin at $4k if that was offered.
$99 a month seems to be what most are expecting. I believe they would do well at that price point.
MaskedRacerX
Member
I just want straight forward or backward "summon", just to deal with other cars who park close, puddles, etc. I just need about 10 feet 
EVNow
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Tesla recognizes something like 55% of FSD revenue. So, they think the present value of undelivered portion of FSD is 45%.
EVNow
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