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Escaping from a Jetta TDI to MS60

Discussion in 'Model S: Ordering, Production, Delivery' started by Damocles, Nov 10, 2016.

  1. Damocles

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    Hi All,

    Long time lurker, and wanted to write up my story so far in case it is an inspiration or help to others.

    Executive summary, tl;dr: Giving back my diesel to VW and leasing a Tesla. Renting one for the weekend is highly recommended. Get the Autopilot.


    I bought a first year Jetta TDI (2009 model year) 8 years ago, and VW is now buying back all of these. In my case I'm getting about $12,500 hopefully within the next 60 days.

    Having caught the Tesla fever a while back, this appears to be an opportunity to get into a lease. I'm saddened I missed the 2 year lease terms, but I'm making the 3 year work.

    Since even the lease is a big deal financially, I decided to do a deep dive and rent a 2016 S70D with AP from Turo.com for a weekend. I was able to do this spur of the moment and within 30 minutes i took command and running weekend errands from about 11am saturday to 8pm sunday. At $144 per day, I found this to be well spent. I strongly recommend potential owners doing the same. I learned quite a bit with my extended test drive.

    Firstly, I wasn't going to even touch the AP, as I didn't think I would use it. I then tried it out a few times as 101 in the bay area did what it did best: turn into a parking lot. In both cases, having the AP cruise along and automatically slow for traffic and manage the throttle made this much more bearable.
    Additionally, using just adaptive cruise on a surface street with stop lights can relieve a bit of burden on the driver.

    I wasn't aware of the parking features, and I didn't hook up the tesla app, so I did not try to use Summon either.

    Charging:
    Wow, 120V charging is slow. I was able to get 4 miles per hour charging while visiting a friend, and the tesla complained about 'bad wiring or extension cord', while in my apartment complex garage, and only got 3 miles per hour. I visited the San Mateo SC on saturday night, and the Gilroy SC sunday night before returning the car. These are fantastic. I had a quick bite at Chipotle with a friend, returned to the car with 100% charge after about 30 minutes. Car showed about 40mi at the start.I had to wait a bit to start, as this was a very busy charger. In Gilroy, there was no wait, and also returned to a fully charged car.

    There are multiple ChargePoints near my work, though I did not try them out. They are free for the first 4 hours, so while I normally bike to work, I could drive in on Friday to make sure things are topped off as possible for any weekend excursions. Luckily the bay area has lots of SCs as well, and I'll lock in the supercharger access for the car when I put a deposit down this month.


    Car only had 7200 miles on it, and looked well put together. This car had cloth seats, which where 'ok', and I'd say worse than my jetta. I sat in a 70D in the dealer with leather, which convinced me to get that upgrade. Also had the Pano roof, and while I did open the sunroof once or twice, I'm not used to it and found I liked it closed better to reduce noise. Even when closed, the sun was still bright enough that I wanted to wear a baseball cap. I'm likely to go with the solid roof. If the glass roof could go opaque electrically, (unlikely) I'd consider it, but a solid roof is also the cheapest option.

    Central Console / nav:
    I'm left scratching my head as to why they don't allow android auto (or apple carplay) and just left it at that. My OA said it has something to do with making sure I hit superchargers on the way, but that seemed pretty weak.
    It only seems to support something called "Slacker", which i suppose is a pandora clone, so I didn't bother. I tethered by phone via bluetooth and piped my own tunes in through Google Music.

    The voice directions for the nav didn't seem to duck the audio that much, perhaps this was a setting? I could never hear the instructions unless the music was off.

    All in all, the big touch screen was responsive, but I find many of the UI choices a bit bizarre. It uses some poorly designed icons with no captions for some items, and clearly legible text for other things. I'd prefer things to be more clear. There are times I would have liked the center screen to simply be off, as the behind the wheel screen provided enough information for me, and the big screen was simply a distraction. Overall I found this to be the weakest part of the Tesla experience. With everything else putting a smile on my face as I drove, I wondered if Elon is truly satisfied with the center console.

    Actually driving the car felt great, the power was always there, pointing up hills, at freeway speeds, at slow speeds, the car simply doesn't care. I didn't do much twisty-turny driving, but the car certainly felt more solid than the jetta overall. Low center of gravity likely showing off here. This model had coil springs, I don't know what the air suspension would be like. I enjoyed that the powertrain was basically silent. There is a slight sci-fi whirring somewhere, though nothing that is annoying.

    I decided recently to pull the trigger, with the $2000 increase being confirmed, the super charging being scaled back, and the referral program potentially ending in January, I believe now is time to buy or lease. Unless disaster occurs, I'll be putting a deposit down later this month, hopefully with VW buyback confirmation in hand so I can try to coordinate the vehicle swaps.
     
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  2. brkaus

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    An extended test drive is worth it, but be ready to buy one first. Or don't bother with a test. You will regret it.
     
  3. Damocles

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    Found out the price hike isn't on Dec 1st, the date is November 22nd. Looks like I'm doing this now rather than waiting around a bit. Was thinking Thanksgiving weekend. I signed into Tesla, designed a car, grabbed a friends referral code, and have a lease application in.

    Tesla reps already contacted me back as approved on the lease. I'll give 'em my down-payment once they tack on the referral code (lease guy can't do that, so off to the OA it goes).

    I thought the code was done after or maybe a spot to type it in on the website, turns out, a buyer is supposed to get the code/URL first, which lets one design the car with the $1000 off built in.
     
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    Yep, I made that rule having track driven an AMG Merc at 21 - never try something you can't afford to buy if you like it!
     
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    They're buying my 2011 Golf TDI back too but I'm getting $23,200
     
  6. e-FTW

    e-FTW New electron smell

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    Congrats on the move Damocles!
    And in case you were wondering: am over one year in, and the sci-fi feeling is still as strong as the first day!
     
  7. JClu

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    Congrats @Damocles on taking the dive! Good decision. You'll love the car.

    Did your OA not offer the extended (24-hr) test drive option? I wonder if that's each individual Tesla "dealership's" decision. Mine let me take one of their P90D home for 24 hours before I took the plunge.
     
  8. Damocles

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    I didn't go to the dealer first. I took the rental/drive first of my own volition. Even being 'undealers', I didn't expect anything like a 24 hour test, nor have I heard about that. Oh well, I wanted to try out Turo.com as well, so it still worked out.
     
  9. Damocles

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    Nice, mine is a 2009 with over 100k miles, so much more in the way of depreciation.
     
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    I gave Tesla my deposit today. So I'm having to make final decisions, like pickup location and date. Is it worth getting it from the factory? My other option is Palo Alto, which is much closer.
     
  11. JClu

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    I've heard that Tesla offered a tour of the Fremont factory, which sounds pretty neat, if you take delivery there. I'd do it if I lived on the Bay Area. You can still bring it to the Palo Alto SC if you need it serviced. :)
     
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    Nice. I just got the email that my Tesla started production yesterday. Waiting for VW to finalize my documents on my '15 Golf TDI. Getting back $29k and I put 60k miles on it this year. Can't wait to never pay for gas again! haha
     
  13. e-FTW

    e-FTW New electron smell

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    Take the factory delivery! It is pretty cool to tour the factory, then grab your car on the way out! Everyone that can do it should.
    I got to go pick up my car from the factory via subway (BART) and a short Lyft ride. Pretty neat.
     
  14. Damocles

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    Ok, I took your advice and went for factory delivery. I also hit the 'confirm' button early as I'm sure of my choices. I received my VIN last night.

    I thought I had to wait 7 days, no matter what, which seemed odd. Nice to shave off a few days!.
     
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    Do you get any kind of discount for picking it up at the factory ?
     
  16. e-FTW

    e-FTW New electron smell

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    You get a tour of the awesome factory with the robot uprising's nucleus and a dose of Tesla Kool-aid, which if you are here, you don't need.
     
  17. e-FTW

    e-FTW New electron smell

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    Yeah, for some reason, the 'confirm' button was not available for me, but that was a good thing, as the pano roof kept coming on and off of my order every day! Ha!
    Good for you, this is awesome!!! How are you dealing with the wait? I dealt with it by binge watching Bjørn's videos.
    http://www.youtube.com/user/bjornnyland
     
  18. Damocles

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    No. I researched this, and my OA even brought it up. The dest/doc fee is $1200 no matter what, as some deliveries are a little more expensive, and some less.

    A referral code just about erases this, so I recommend you grab one of the many available (and before the referral bonus goes away)
     
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    It hasn't 'hit' me yet. When I have a delivery date and that gets near, then I might get a little more antsy. Work is pretty busy, so that keeps me occupied. I did change my computer desktop image to the Red Tesla M60 from the Design Studio however. So I can gaze deeply into its headlights and dream of it's arrival.
     
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    Tesla asked about my travel plans in case there is a conflict with delivery (I told 'em I have none), and VW sent me the final offer for buyback on Saturday. Woo! With any luck, both cars will trade places in the garage around the same time in December.
     
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