ohh. now my hope is completely gone LOL i guess i should just move on with my life. its fine though, maybe they will surprise me with a VIN tomorrow, if not oh well, january maybeI read your message wrong, I thought they confirmed a VIN on their side. "mike said that if they confirm a VIN for me then it takes only a couple of hours to transfer the car from Fremont". I would wait for the VIN at this point sorry for the confusion. But yeah I've been using that number since they were more helpful in answering my questions.