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EV Charging at gas station in Belgium

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  1. Adm

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    As far as I know the first charging station integrated in a gas station.

    http://www.schneider-electric.com/corporate/en/press/press-releases/viewer-press-releases.page?c_filepath=/templatedata/Content/Press_Release/data/en/shared/2010/10/20101018_schneider_electric_delivers_universal_charging_spots_for_electric_vehi.xml
     
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    Again with the crazy venue; I'm feeling that this is just green-washing. What on earth does Total have to gain from offering electricity? What am I missing?
     
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    #4 TEG, Nov 1, 2010
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    It looks like they have a typical "3 grade choice" selector there (?)
    I wonder what you get for "premium" electrons.... More spin? :cool:

    regular_or_premium_-_feature_cd_articlesmall.jpg

    Hmm... Maybe someone would do something like:
    50kW - $1.00/kW
    19kW - $0.50/kW
    6kW - $0.33/kW

    Consumers like 3 choices. A charge rate to cost trade-off? On the other hand, the "pump" will be in use longer at slow rates, so maybe they should charge _more_ for slow charge.


    Seriously though, does someone have a better picture showing what all the buttons do?
     
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    http://www.edubourse.com/finance/actualites.php?actu=66806
     
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    #7 AndrewBissell, Nov 2, 2010
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    http://www.fleet-business.com/total_belgium_a_installer_12_bornes_de_recharge_pour_vehicules_electriques_48740-fr-242-176874.html (in French)

    Summary of this source plus some other sources:

    There are 12 locations to be installed by end November 2010 (8 around Brussels, 3 Antwerp aka Anvers, 1 Namur aka Namen).

    See http://www.imustbe.be/mmm/jq/files/48740/48740__20101012090151__total_belgium_plug_to_drive_aper_u_implantations.pdf for details.

    Total is Market leader in selling petroleum fuels in Belgium.

    They chose to specify a highly "polyvalent" charger able to supply any of AC 16A, 32A, 63A and DC 125A. This is because EV vendors need to "study the batteries some more" and "observe user behaviours".

    Charging costs €4 per hour for slow charge, per 20 minutes for medium fast and per 10 minutes for fast charge. You can pay by pre-paid card or at the cash desk of the service station.
     
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    I am visiting Ypres (aka Ieper) for Armistice Day (11 November). I evaluated going with the Tesla Roadster by driving from home to Newcastle, England, then Ferry to Amsterdam, Netherlands, then drive to Ypres, Belgium.

    Newcastle is now full of charging points thanks to Plugged in Places. Some will even be "fast" soon, I am told.

    I think I could negotiate to charge on the ferry (overnight) as there will be plenty of power on the truck deck.

    Amsterdam has many charging points.

    But until now I couldn't find any useful charging in Belgium.

    It's over 300km from Amsterdam Ijmuiden ferry terminal to Ypres, so too far for the Tesla in one hop.

    This news changes that. Charging at Antwerp is about midway.

    Unfortunately too late for this trip (flight & car hire already booked) but there will be a next time.

    We really need that open and rapidly updated charger map to keep track of all this. Kevin - how soon will we be able to start to submit data?
     
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    I think we are about one month away from having the web front end for the database. The plan is that end users will submit the data and then a group of 'moderators' will check the data for accuracy and completeness....
     
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    Hi TEG thanks for the pictures. Do you have a source link? Do you know which station that is and who the driver is (and does he/she hang out here on TMC)?

    Thanks

    Andrew
     
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    #12 TEG, Nov 10, 2010
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    Source link for latest pictures:
    http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=257202&id=18790602800&ref=mf

    I think the station in the photo is:
    Total Ruisbroek
    E19 Parijs-Brussel
    1601 Ruisbroek

    From the brickwork around the charge station it looks to be the same location they showed in the earlier press release photos.

    http://sint-pieters-leeuw.eu/2010/10/11/laadpunt-voor-electrische-voertuigen-langs-de-e19-in-ruisbroek/
    total-ruisbroek.jpg
    2010-10-11-oplaadpunt-total-plug-to-drive.jpg
    http://sint-pieters-leeuw.eu/2010/05/06/hernieuwd-total-station-in-ruisbroek-officieel-ingehuldigd/

    Big list of stations:
    http://www.imustbe.be/mmm/jq/files/48740/48740__20101012090128__total_belgium_plug_to_drive_overzicht_laadpunten.pdf
    http://www.wattgehtab.com/stromlade-infrastruktur/total-tankstellen-in-belgien-setzen-auf-schnellladestationen-fur-elektroautos-2818


    http://www.caradisiac.com/Vehicules-electriques-en-Belgique-Total-installe-un-reseau-de-bornes-de-recharge-polyvalentes-62642.htm
     
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    #13 TEG, Nov 10, 2010
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