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EV6 GT gets track mode out of the box and yet the Y still doesn't....
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Think it would be more like .3 %. Which would be offset 50x by the warranty claims. “You gave us track mode the car breaking is your fault!” Can’t think of a bigger waste of time adding this feature.
Without track mode, the car will cut power pretty quickly. It cut power on my car on canyon runs on hot days pretty quickly. When I have track mode on, definitely can go longer and can monitor your heat levels on the car real time. Its a neat feature and I'm sure would actually serve Model Y Performance owners well. You don't have to go to the track to actually benefit from Track Mode.
Yeah, no doubt. But does it actually move the needle for people to buy the car?
I like what @Yelobird mentioned above. To that, I’d add the expense of developing it (software probably wouldn’t be bad considering M3 has it) and the cost (probably a lot) of testing it. Because Musk said it will happen, I believe it will… at some point. Maybe the EV6 GT will nudge it up the backlog. I’d say it’s a nice-to-have feature.
gx9901
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I took my MYP to a small (1.2 mile) local track twice this summer. It's not that I specifically wanted to track the MYP, but it's what I've got, and it's also the most capable car I've ever owned by a mile. I've never been on a track before and just found out this year about this opportunity to take a car to this track, so I went for it and had a blast. I'm a bit of a wussboy on the track so I didn't push the car anywhere hard enough to need the Track Mode, but it would have been fun to have it to play with, if for nothing other than the lap timer to check my lap times.
I would love to be able to do this with a Track Mode available some day (That's actually me in my car. Some photographer dude was there the last time I went to this track):
Although EV's have many attributes that lend themselves for being great short track/ sporting cars (i.e. room to create ideal suspension geometry, low center of gravity, AWD torque vectoring, very torquey) there is more to making a great track car than those things. Namely proper wheels, tires, brakes, suspension, & aero/ downforce to a certain extent.
These items can not be improved through programming alone, if at all.
These items can not be improved through programming alone, if at all.
Yeah but the absolute bare minimum you need is Track Mode. Just can’t make a track car without it for Model Y/3.
Agreed with @Apprunner . When I try driving my M3P truly hard outside of Track Mode the nannies put a stop to it quick. You cannot power out of a corner exit properly, it car won't give much power at all until the steering is pointed straight. I assume MYP is the same. And it sometimes grabs a little brake mid-corner just from getting very close to the car's cornering limits, without otherwise exceeding them.
If you've never done a track day before I could see still having a great time for day 1. But once you have any experience, it would be super frustrating to try tracking these cars without Track Mode, or some other means to dial back the nannies.
(Now personally I feel like tracking a crossover is just weird, doesn't feel right at all, and I don't think the HPDE groups I used to run would've allowed it due to rollover risk. But it's a new era now, crossovers are everywhere, and MYP center-of-gravity is low so it should be safe enough.)
I personally think this thread has covered it all already, and there isn't much more to say until someone actually gets an EV6 GT and tries out track mode and reports back on if it is actually any good...
TomServo
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Those weren't my words, I merely stated a way to normalize is use % R&D of budget.
Here is some data:
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Volkswagen spends more % on R&D than Tesla.
Did you read the title of the topic you are referring too? Or the post? It was specifically about how the EV6 outperforms the model y…
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Spending 3-4 years fixing glaring flaws with the initial model run is sorta like innovation I suppose
K1Woods
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a 3.3 or 3.2, 0 to 60 would bring alot of happiness to me! Model S, X and M3P should remain faster.
I hear you
On the issue of it being strange to see crossovers on a track, 20 years ago (pre EVO and WRX STi) people thought you were nuts if you took a 4 door sedan to a track with the rare exception of some BMW guys, styles change and when styles change what goes to the track changes.
Keith
PS: My MYP is not the fastest / most capable car I have ever owned... but it is the car I own now. I still regret selling my 2005 EVO RS pushing 550 wheel HP.
Gotta Echo what a Few already have, but the EV6 is much more akind to the Model 3 than the Model Y.
I sure do wish Tesla would drop a Track Mode on the MYP though, would be fun, I miss my M3P for that very reason.
With everything said above, the Model Y is my Favorite Tesla and I have a Model X Plaid. I want a Tri Motor Model Y Performance+ - give me 2.6 second 0-60, more acceleration after 80 mph, and track mode. I would drop the X tomorrow.
It's unfortunate Kia dropped the Stinger, I thought they might move it over to an Electric Drivetrain and compete with performance EVs.
I sure do wish Tesla would drop a Track Mode on the MYP though, would be fun, I miss my M3P for that very reason.
With everything said above, the Model Y is my Favorite Tesla and I have a Model X Plaid. I want a Tri Motor Model Y Performance+ - give me 2.6 second 0-60, more acceleration after 80 mph, and track mode. I would drop the X tomorrow.
It's unfortunate Kia dropped the Stinger, I thought they might move it over to an Electric Drivetrain and compete with performance EVs.
EV6 is a compact crossover SUV package, it's got a tall hip point and a long roof and a long wheelbase and the weight to go with it, and there are not many people tracking crossover SUV's with any regularity. Tastes change but physics (and more importantly, the economics of replacing enormous tires and brakes) don't and an extra 500-1000lb matters a lot over the course of a weekend's wroth of tires and brakes, especially with the speeds modern cars are able to develop so effortlessly. But I get it's also nice to be able to do track day stuff in your daily (or just tell the car to quit holding you back) once in a while. Tesla's stability programs in general are super conservative with very little user customization except for track mode, so it's a real bummer that's not standard equipment on any "performance" model.
In any event, EV6 is a Model Y competitor, it just is, I don't make the rules. The Ioniq6 N with the GT's powertrain in it will be the droid from the Koreans for track stuff, IMO. And it'll be awesome.
In any event, EV6 is a Model Y competitor, it just is, I don't make the rules. The Ioniq6 N with the GT's powertrain in it will be the droid from the Koreans for track stuff, IMO. And it'll be awesome.
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This track mode and 0 to 60 in the mid 3s makes me think of Anne Heche today.
K1Woods
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