Er, I lived it for multiple years so I guess I know it AND lived it. You get plenty of drizzly days here too and my wipers work just fine. Perhaps occasionally when it really pours for a while and the wipers go to top speed, they don't always slow down as the rain abates. That happen very occasionally and I just manually override it. No biggie.
It's not a very good solution tho. It is still quite slow, and not as effective as if the defrosters were actually on. Second, it doesn't always work as it depends on the relative humidity outside, plus sometimes depending on the weather, it will let a bunch of water inside the vehicle causing you to get wet, or make the window fogging worse, or both. Normally I would suggest to vent the sunroof, but the MY doesn't have one, lol.
True, reflecting on this I seem to be an idiot. Paid 100k EUR for a car, finding myself struggling with HVAC and wipers. Again, best EV powertrain but.... well, you know.
If it was occasional I’d be fine. But it’s not. My sample set is small but we have 2M3 and both behave this way so it’s not. 1 off. Additionally there are a lot post on tmc with many other people complaining about the wipers. I’m glad they work well enough for you, but I believe it is something that has a problem which has, over years, not been addressed.
Same here... Of all the times that it rains, and I tried to use auto, 99% of the time it always goes to superspeed. And I've cleaned the windshield several times, including with a claybar, so I know it's not that. It seems to have a hard time with drizzle... If it rains a little harder, it works fine... But if it rains too hard, it again defaults to superspeed. It seems to struggle with PacNW rain. All my other cars, are a set and forget it. I would only occasionally get superspeed if there is sunglare while drizzling, but I can count on one hand the number of times that was an issue over the past several years. Our Tesla, I can count on one hand the number of times the wipers worked ok... Almost every time I have to constantly fumble with the wiper controls. Made worse, is the voice controls that are really shoddy. I can say "Set wiper speed ONE." and even "Set Wiper speed ONE of FOUR", and the text dictation works, as the display says, "Set wiper speed ONE (of FOUR)", but then when it executes, it sets the speed to TWO. I had to explicitly use the word "set", becuase otherwise half the time it would try to stream some song that had the word wipers in them. The only way I can get it to set speed to ONE, is to use the word LOW... And that's if it decides to work... Sometimes it can take up to 10+ seconds for it to actually execute, so I don't even bother with it anymore, I just tap the button.
In the 70's my parents had a 60's-something Chrysler Imperial that had a "magic eye" on the dashboard that automatically dimmed the high beams when it detected oncoming traffic. You can see the sensor above the speedo in the images below. From the front, they even made it look like a human eye. So I'd say after almost 50 years of development in this space.
exactly. or yesterday, when we got in the car after work, forgetting to pre heat everything:
If she wants to stay cold you turn passenger air temperature down and the auto seat heaters will turn down to low or off.
OK, good to know. So my normal cabin temp at 66, fan 2 or 3, seat heaters on high is not possible with Auto seat heaters?
That is super edge case lol. I see where you’re coming from. I’m an auto type of guy I guess. Set my temp to 68 in winter 70 in summer and hardly ever touch climate control. Hopefully they improve v11 so most people are happier with it. They won’t ever make everyone happy.
Here is the thing: most of us are 'edge cases'. By 'us' I mean everybody. You might be happy with the auto seat heaters, but clearly many are not. This should surprise nobody, but amazingly it seems to. I suspect there are other things in your life (or in the car) where your preference is far enough away from the mean to make an automatic system annoying/useless. Perhaps not though
A loud upset minority can easily be perceived as “everybody.” Most owners are just driving and enjoying their cars everyday.Here is the thing: most of us are 'edge cases'. By 'us' I mean everybody. You might be happy with the auto seat heaters, but clearly many are not. This should surprise nobody, but amazingly it seems to. I suspect there are other things in your life (or in the car) where your preference is far enough away from the mean to make an automatic system annoying/useless. Perhaps not though
You don't have any evidence to back that up. I don't have any evidence to claim otherwise since neither one of us has polled a representative sample of owners. However, my point was more to automation in general. It will never be an acceptable justification for removing good (and safe) user controls, and should ALWAYS be the users choice to use it or not.
