I was asking someone who disagreed (down voted) what was it about my FACTUAL statement that they disagreed with. How was my post impolite? I used no foul language, didn't type in all caps etc. I am sharing my comments on v11 and I have the right to do so. I have never said others have no right! I think you need to go and reread what I said
As a workaround to this issue, I had left it on satellite view months ago instead, which had worked better for me. I agree the normal night time map view is not very good. Not enough contrast with all the various grays.
Another clear indication you are blinded by your hatred for v11. I advocate that I prefer v11 over v10. That is what irks you. You cant grasp some people prefer v11 over v10. I am ALL for having more options but I am not going to stand around while some post nonsense suggesting the vehicle is now dangerous.I find it ironic that TexasTezla advocates for “one size fits all” where I, from California, think that we should have more options
Very factual, polite and not using caps, yeah
I prefer interfaces that improve as well, but V11 would not fall into that category. Many things are worse, including making some functions that are often used while driving objectively less convenient to use. At the same time, V11 makes it possible for the user to customize a bar with functions that can't be used while driving at all (e.g., toybox, video). It's nonsensical that it's possible to configure such that it is easier to access games vs. defrosters and seat heating.
@TexasTezla I’ve down voted some of your posts because they are phrased as put-downs and not always polite. That’s it. I’m not disagreeing that you find v11 then v10. That’s your view point and it’s great to share it. But I don’t think it’s appropriate to tell other TMC members they are ‘wrong’ or worse.
Personally I prefer v11 over v10. I have camera, energy, radio and phone as my fixed functions...I can use them all while driving.
To say someone is wrong is not a put down! You even sent me a PM saying if you misunderstood then you apologize! Yes, you misunderstood. What I said was factually correct. Users had a hand in determining some of the changes to v11. I'm not going over this again.
Flexible (adj.) able to be easily modified to respond to altered circumstances orconditions
A user complained that the interface was cumbersome to use, to which someone responded with the obligatory "just use voice commands" comment. When it was pointed out that voice commands don't always work you said "luckily most places people drive have cell coverage." If you follow the thread, your response was trying to justify voice commands as a replacement for the interface, not an 'added benefit.'
What added control button and what larger buttons? All the buttons are actually smaller and most are hidden. There is more hunting and pecking for the climate control system. There is more hunting and pecking for the odometers. In my use there is more hunting and pecking for the audio system.
You use 'screen designs' in the generic sense and say they are improvements. I merely pointed out that changing the design can be good or bad.
teslamotorsclub.com
"although it is certainly more flexible than most car interfaces"...doesn't this make it flexible then? It does in my book. The flexibility I was talking about was that it CAN be changed. I didnt say it was flexible for the user to change...although now it is that too!Flexible (adj.) able to be easily modified to respond to altered circumstances orconditions
The interface was changed by Tesla programmers. Perhaps in response to user input, perhaps based on some idea a programmer came up with in a drunken stupor. Regardless, it is not easily modified and not modifiable by users. (I.e. it is not flexible, although it certainly is more flexible than most car interfaces)
A user complained that the interface was cumbersome to use, to which someone responded with the obligatory "just use voice commands" comment. When it was pointed out that voice commands don't always work you said "luckily most places people drive have cell coverage." If you follow the thread, your response was trying to justify voice commands as a replacement for the interface, not an 'added benefit.'
What added control button and what larger buttons? All the buttons are actually smaller and most are hidden. There is more hunting and pecking for the climate control system. There is more hunting and pecking for the odometers. In my use there is more hunting and pecking for the audio system.
You use 'screen designs' in the generic sense and say they are improvements. I merely pointed out that changing the design can be good or bad.
Poll on V11 interface
This is a poll on version 11 which is the most radical overhaul and reorganization of the screen and computer interface in years. It appears however to have garnered mixed if not polarized reviews. This poll is an attempt to capture people's overall assessment of this update. Please do feel free...
Sounds as though your update didnt work very well...ask tesla to push you the download again...
I have the same shortcuts, except Spotify over radio. Still wish I had the full climate functions on the main screen though.
Let me try another analogy for you - "Derek Chauvin is less evil than Jeffry Dahmer..." does not mean he is good. It just means he's not as bad.
Like I said, the context of the thread you replied to implied that they were the solution. Some people like them but they have many flaws (LTE reception among them,) and as I and multiple other people have explained, Voice commands are no substitute for a good UI.
Ah, those buttons. Yes, the control menu is better organized and the buttons larger. That is not a screen you should be using on a regular basis while driving however. All of the buttons one generally uses while driving appear to be smaller.
Nope - personal preference. My gripe isn't with the design, though, it's with the usability.
Do you have evidence that 'most people' like the new interface?
My point was not that the car would have managed the conditions any better or worse with a different UI, just that I had numerous requirements to change the climate settings and V11 would have made it more difficult. Many commenters don't seem to understand the reality of this driving environment. The designers and supporters of V11 believe that it's OK to hide many of the climate controls because "set it and forget it" is good enough. That may work in hot or mild climates, but a climate control system requires more driver interaction in the conditions we face in winter. No vehicle is ever going to manage this in an automatic mode, simply because there are not enough sensors to evaluate all the criteria. Only a human can do this, and Elon's goal of error-free automation will never be achieved. As I was driving today, I also realized that part of my objection to V11 is losing instant visual access to the system settings. I don't think that aspect has been emphasized enough in other comments on this issue. If Tesle is able to offer more flexibility in customizing the launch bar with climate control icons, I can see myself possibly using different layouts in winter and summer.
