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Wiki Everything you wanted to know about Intelligent Octopus But Were Afraid To Ask

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Why write this post?
A lot of people are starting to get interested in IO. I don't think Octopus do a very good job of spelling out the benefits in their website. They have some FAQs, but the same questions keep coming up over and over on the forums.

What is it?
In a nutshell, IO is a split tariff that gives you a cheap off-peak rate for charging your EV and other electrical items in the household, including home batteries.

Isn’t that the same as Octopus Go or Go Faster?
The principle is the same, but in exchange for some benefits which we’ll explain, you allow Octopus to control the timing of your EV charge, so they can choose low carbon intensity and/or cheap wholesale priced time slots.

So I’m not in control of my charge? I don’t like the sound of that!
Well yes…and no. You’re in control of how much to charge and when you want the car to be ready, just like you would be normally. Within those parameters, you’re allowing Octopus to control which half-hour slots the car chooses to get to that target % charge. And you can always override IO if you want to “bump charge” through the day.

OK, but what are the benefits you mentioned for this trade off?
First of all, you get a larger guaranteed off-peak window for using household appliances and charging home batteries, etc. It’s six hours between 23:30-05:30. Go, for example, is a fixed 4 hour window.
In addition, when IO schedules your EV charging slots it sometimes creates schedules that fall outside of the fixed, six hour window. If that happens your EV charging and all your household use in these extra-slots is also charged at off-peak rates.
I have frequently had schedules give me seven or more hours of off-peak rates. On one occasion, I had a total of ten hours of off-peak rates.

Am I eligible?
You need a smart meter and a compatible car and/or charger. Since you’re reading this here, I assume you’ve got or are thinking of getting a Tesla. IO works with the Tesla API to create the charging schedules. The advantage of this is that IO will work with any* home charger. If you have a charger with smart features, you need to disable them so that the charger acts as a dumb switch. IO will control everything via Tesla’s API to start and stop your charging.
*Even your granny charger - but you need to tell IO what the max throughput is when you go through setup so that it can work out your schedules properly.

Some of this sounds too good to be true.
Phantom drain caused by having smart charging enabled in the Octopus app has been fixed as of 30th August 2022. One small side effect appears to be that schedules sometimes take longer to appear in the app after plugging in.

Further questions (to be updated in the main thread body once the edit timer on this post expires)

I have two EVs, can I charge the other while on IO?

Not with IO scheduling the charging, but you can charge any other car in the fixed 23:30-05:30 off peak window or at any other time at peak prices.

What are the rates etc?
Octopus do a decent job of explaining the peak and off-peak rates along with contracts etc. Head over to their pages to discover that.

I asked for a target % of x, but I got less than x.
There are two or three reasons for this.

The first, most common reason, is that Tesla reports battery % differently depending on where you look. The API (that IO uses) reports the gross battery %. This is generally fixed but can fluctuate very slightly. The Tesla app shows usable %. Apps like Teslamate and Teslafi can display both. Quite often, there is a delta of 2-3% which may be down to battery temp or other factors. This usable % will often be recovered as the battery warms up during a drive.

Some users have reported charging % being way off, perhaps 10% or more. This could be down to an error in the onboarding process. Some of the charger database entries incorrectly assume the charger you are onboarding is the 11kW version, without actually saying so in the charger description. The Andersen A2 was an early example of this. If you suspect this may be the case, the easiest thing to do is go through the on-boarding again and choose "Generic 7.4kW charger". It won't affect your functionality on IO in any way.

Lastly, it has to be mentioned that occasionally IO just craps out. It may be down to a comms error, a server error at Octopus' end, or just reasons. IO is a beta product and it's wise to expect one or two quirks from time to time
 
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IO is controlling my Tesla, not my Zappi.

Our friends are getting an e-niro as a company car shortly (jammy gits) but will take a while to sort out a charger. I’d like to offer them the option to charge using my zappi overnight if possible to save then using the local shell rapid at 70p/kwh. probably only charge once a week so not the end of the world if they have to use the shell

If I don’t use the timer aspect, technically I should be able to charge theirs overnight during the core off peak hours?

contractually is there anything preventing me doing that? I know they don’t allow two cars to be intelligently controlled but what about one dumbly charged?
Should be fine. Of course they should be able to use a three pin granny charger at home as well.
 
Question to the experts, is it OK to leave IO switched on in the App all the time now and how long should it take to get a charging schedule when plugging in after 5.00 pm, it takes several hours to appear for me, thanks.
 
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Question to the experts, is it OK to leave IO switched on in the App all the time now and how long should it take to get a charging schedule when plugging in after 5.00 pm, it takes several hours to appear for me, thanks.
If you mean the smart charging, I leave it on all the time and haven't had any problems so far.
My schedule seems to turn up between a few minutes and a couple of hours later, but I usually plug in before 5. I stop the charge with the Tesla app as soon as I plug in.
 
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Yeah that drives the effective cost of IO up as you've got to replace that all the time. For someone like me that charges once a week (often less these days since working from home) it'd become a significant part of the cost of running the car.

I've toyed with the idea of joining IO then immediately disconnecting the car from their software and setting up a fixed schedule, but they might notice and cancel it..
 
Hi everyone, I have just taken delivery of a MYLR last week and have smart meters on an Octopus standard tariff.

I’m thinking of switching to IO, has anyone already on IO had any communication from Octopus about changes in rates from 1st Oct? Or is IO effectively a fixed rate tarrif?

Thank you.
 

Apparently they're contacting people over the next weeks. I'd prefer if it just updated on the dashboard automatically, but it must be being calculated individually.
 
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Hi all, I need some help please. My IO was fine up until i drove to Switzerland for a week. Ever since IO just doesn’t work and I need to reconnect in the app and eventually it starts working again.

Anyone else had this? Its like the app or Octopus doesn’t recognise thr car because it starts charging and doesn’t stop unless i force it.

Octopus support not helping me at all on it and getting to a point of pure frustration.

Any advice here would be great
 
Anyone using IO with Ohme? I just switched a few days ago, but it's charging the car at peak times (or as soon as I plug in). It's not using the intelligent times at all.

Alternatively, is it ok just to set Ohme to charge between 11.30 and 5.30? It'll be off peak anyway won't it?
 
Anyone using IO with Ohme? I just switched a few days ago, but it's charging the car at peak times (or as soon as I plug in). It's not using the intelligent times at all.

Alternatively, is it ok just to set Ohme to charge between 11.30 and 5.30? It'll be off peak anyway won't it?

Tesla? Ours does that - I just stop it manually in the tesla app after plugging in and then IO will get the tesla to pull a charge when its scheduled
 
So if my schedule isn't being picked up by the Octopus app, I'm assuming it's OK (for my bill) to just charge 11.30-5.30 like I did on Go?

It'll be 7p every day between those times?
yes in general.

But usually, it's what it happens:
you plug in at peak, after 5 PM. they start to charge for few minutes. maybe 10, or so. then the schedule is set, it stops charging.

in general, all is done via car, and you should use any time of charger you have as a dumb charger - charger itself should not control anything and all start-stop done exclusively by the car
 
in general, all is done via car, and you should use any time of charger you have as a dumb charger - charger itself should not control anything and all start-stop done exclusively by the car

For any recently installed smart chargers that might also introduce further small delays to charges actually starting. New regulations mean they have a built in start variable which randomises any set time schedule (up to 10 minutes). This is to reduce the rapid impact on the grid of so many chargers all kicking in at exactly the same moment.
 
Anyone using IO with Ohme? I just switched a few days ago, but it's charging the car at peak times (or as soon as I plug in). It's not using the intelligent times at all.
You haven't said if you've signed up with Tesla integration, or the beta Ohme integration.

If you've signed up with Tesla integration, ensure ALL smart charging options are disabled in the Ohme app, so that it's acting as a completely dumb charger.

If you've signed up to use Ohme's beta Intelligent integration, ensure you've followed the sign up process exactly. It's a different process to signing up for Tesla integration. Then also ensure the Ohme app settings are exactly as in the FAQ
Alternatively, is it ok just to set Ohme to charge between 11.30 and 5.30? It'll be off peak anyway won't it?
No, it's not really OK and it breaks the ToS for the tariff.
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