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F-150 Ford Lightning
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How much you want to bet some of the same issues will show up on the Lightning? I foresee the 'stop safely now' issue happing, OTAs will be handled poorly and there'll be random somewhere issues with the door locks and infotainment system.
I'll take that bet. The Mach-E was/is the Beta for the Lightning. Will there be issues? Of course, every Tesla has issues also, as well as Vivian's. But will there be the same amount as the Mach-E? I don't think so. The F-150 is Fords bread and butter, unless they want to sabotage themselves, I don't foresee major issues.
When is Ford going to learn ? They need to ditch the dealership model and sell direct to the customer. These dealerships are going to do everything they can to sabotage the EV rollout.
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Ford warns dealers of $25k fine if F-150 Lightning demo units are sold early
Ford seems intent on ensuring that the rollout of the F-150 Lightning will go off without a hitch. This was hinted at in a recent memo sent to dealers about the company’s Ford Courtesy Transportation Program (FCTP), which provides demo units to dealerships. The memo, which was shared with...
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Yep, but dealerships are still too important to Ford at the moment and is the reason they continue to play ball. That Farley is just a used car salesman. At least with Tesla, what you see is what you get. No sweaty, shady 'finance guy' trying to squeeze the last dime out of you so he can impress his mistress.When is Ford going to learn ? They need to ditch the dealership model and sell direct to the customer. These dealerships are going to do everything they can to sabotage the EV rollout.
Ford warns dealers of $25k fine if F-150 Lightning demo units are sold early
Ford seems intent on ensuring that the rollout of the F-150 Lightning will go off without a hitch. This was hinted at in a recent memo sent to dealers about the company’s Ford Courtesy Transportation Program (FCTP), which provides demo units to dealerships. The memo, which was shared with...
strider
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So you're saying it's going to be better than the Refresh Model X. I'm not worried about Ford.
strider
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Plenty of shady stuff going on w/ Tesla too. They jacked a bunch of Refresh owners who had 5 and 7 seat orders to "upgrade" to a 6 seat in order to "guarantee delivery by 12/31/21. Many people took this deal and spent thousands of dollars on a configuration they didn't want only to have Tesla not meet their "guarantee".
Not to mention Tesla delivering Refresh Model Xs with scratches on the paint, messed up and mismatching trim pieces, half of the speakers disconnected, microphones disconnected, etc. With the dealership model, the dealer gets paid by the factory to prep and test the car. Also, they have incentive to deliver a good car as they want you to come back. Tesla literally does not care. The Delivery Center is paid purely on the number of deliveries, not on the condition of the car or customer satisfaction. There are tons of stories of home deliveries where the Tesla rep gets out of the car, threatens the customer with canceling their order if they don't immediately accept the car, and then jumping into their Uber to take them back to their office.
You are new here and have bought 1 Tesla. It's not all rainbows and unicorns, believe me.
finman100
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finman100
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I have worked at Dealerships and my son has worked at Dealerships. You would not believe the crap that the factory pushes out for dealers to fix. Granted the factory pays for the fixes. But still some cars need repair before being sold. My girlfriend's sister bought a Hyundai and the factory forgot to put rear speakers in the car. An F250 King Ranch delivered to the dealer with a cloth passenger seat.
@ThomasD That's actually really interesting to know. I've long had a suspicion that Tesla's factory QA issues aren't that much worse than many other carmakers (at least not anymore), rather the bigger difference is Tesla delivery centers don't look for or fix anything unless it prevents the customer from driving away. Whereas I believe most dealerships, even the sleaziest, most customer-fleecing ones, usually give their cars a halfway decent lookover and fix any glaring issues before their customers ever see it.
In theory Tesla could do proper pre-delivery QA too if they wanted, but clearly they have no incentive for it right now. Maybe someday.
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Brando
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drive that f-150 for 200,000 - seems you'll need another lifetime. You can be one of the last to buy gasoline.
Charge your friends for dump runs - and they will pay for all your gas. You'll make friends too.
Brando
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Merrill
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You missed my point, I do not want to buy any gas and support the fossil fuel industry.
I'm not worried about Ford either, just their customers.
They made a choice to take the deal? Where's the problem? No one forced their hand at gunpoint.
And yet there are multiple reports of scratched or peeling paint, dents, misaligned roofs and doors, loose bolts, water leaks, software issues etc on Mach-Es. So I guess the dealer 'prep' is mostly BS.
I never said it was all rainbows and unicorns. My point was, you get what you see and not forced to deal with the dealership model shady practices.
And on delivery day, the customer gets to look over the car and make a decision. If I was threatened by a Tesla rep, I'd simply call the corporate office. If I got nowhere, I would no longer care to purchase one of their cars.
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The review are in.
4.1 sec 0-60 no 5 second rule like the Mach-E
The Pro gets 4.4 sec 0-60
Not bad at all.
4.1 sec 0-60 no 5 second rule like the Mach-E
The Pro gets 4.4 sec 0-60
Not bad at all.
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