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Falcon Wing Door Safety Risks?

Discussion in 'Model X' started by voltronhb, Mar 29, 2018.

  1. voltronhb

    voltronhb Member

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    If a serious accident occurs, are falcon wing doors more or less safe than doors on SUVs or vans? If the battery is damaged and the FWD wasn't working, I was wondering what the quickest way to exit would be. We have 3 kids 8 and under and they won't be able to do the manual option. They would probably need to exit through the front doors or the windows.
     
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    MXWing Well-Known Member

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    Too many variables. Will the kids have the strength and prescence of mind to open up a van door manually?

    What if the doors are crushed in a certain way? What if you were rolled over on the side?

    Someone please correct me if I’m wrong but I believe VAN/SUV death and serious injuries happen from the initial hit or the incremental damage from rolling over.

    Model X is a solid car against those two scenarios.

    The best defense is a proactive offense which we expect Tesla to get better at with more development time on their sensor and camera systems.

    Instant torque gets you out of dangerous situations as well.

    So yeah I’ll take the X over a van or suv if I want the safest for my family.
     
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  3. travwill

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    Agree, pick a car that will defend against the initial hard impact best as that is what will kill you first.
     
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  4. rsum

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    Good points here. If the original doors are fine and operable but not battery access then the falcon wing doors are extremely hard to open. There are youtube videos of people trying to open them with no power. Grown adult men struggle with it.
     
  5. MXWing

    MXWing Well-Known Member

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    Don’t forget the trunk is huge and opens up tall.

    Awareness, quick reaction and steadiness is what I stress in my children. I think that will matter more than relying on planning for scenarios where the features of a car may or may not come into play.

    Model X is practically a tank for the initial hit and skateboard design keeps it from rolling over.
     
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  6. snoopycr

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    I'm curious. How do you open trunk, windows if the electrical system is down. This applies to all newer cars not just EV.

    Are the front doors the only option out?
     
  7. Pilot7478

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    Well, the front doors are not the option neither, as there are no handles - you cannot pull the doors. So, yes, it's unclear how to open them if there is no power...
     
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    OPENING THE DOORS WITH OR WITHOUT POWER -- To open the front doors from inside Model X, pull the handle towards you.

    OPENING THE FALCON WING DOORS WITHOUT POWER -- Without 12-volt power, the falcon wing doors can only be opened from the inside of the vehicle. Remove the speaker grill from the door and pull the mechanical release cable down and towards the front seat, as shown below. After the latch has released, manually lift up the doors. Model X falcon wing doors are equipped with high tension springs that assist with normal door opening.

    Front trunk Interior Emergency Release -- An interior release button inside the front trunk allows a person locked inside to get out.
    This release button is active whenever Model X is stationary. Press the interior release button to open the front trunk, then push up on the hood.
    Note: The button glows for several hours after a brief exposure to ambient light.

    Opening with No Power -- If Model X has no electrical power, you can open the rear trunk from inside. Use the mechanical release cable located on the underside of the liftgate, next to the interior light.
    1. Remove the cover by pulling its lower edge very firmly toward you.
    2. Pull the cable to release the latch.
    3. Push the liftgate open.

    Owners manual and first responder - google search.

    If the above does not seem like it would work out then first question how other cars/vans work and/or determine if this is too risky then purchase whatever is best for yourself / family. Flipping the lower center of gravity X or S with the heavy battery is highly unlikely compared to other non-ev vehicles.
     
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  9. Pilot7478

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    Thanks for clarifing!
    So, does it mean that it's not possible to open any door from outside if there is no power?
     
  10. scottf200

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    Not sure on the X on the S the handles are supposed to automatically extend when air-bags go off.

    Just like other vehicles you can break the glass and reach through from the outside.

    Suggest you go read the first responder guides and owners manual.
     
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