TMC is an independent, primarily volunteer organization that relies on ad revenue to cover its operating costs. Please consider whitelisting TMC on your ad blocker and becoming a Supporting Member. For more info: Support TMC

Finally put ceramic on the car. Some lessons learned.

Discussion in 'Model 3: Interior & Exterior' started by Glamisduner, Jun 10, 2019.

  1. Glamisduner

    Glamisduner Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2017
    Messages:
    2,943
    Location:
    Escondido, CA
    I finally DIY ceramic coated my car since the weather was nice. It sure is slick and shiny now. The large bottle of CarPro CQuartz (50ml) did 2 coats on the car and a car on the wheels.

    I have PPF on the front and did not need to polish that area but it still took forever :p

    I would have used a more aggressive polish because at night with fluorescent lights I can still see some micro swirls, but you can't see them in the daylight. I was aware this might be an issue but decided to just double polish and go for it anyways. This is my daily driver not a show car, but a more aggressive polish would have done a bit better. I used this polish:
    https://www.amazon.com/Meguiars-Mirror-Glaze-Swirl-Remover/dp/B0002SQVX0/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=meguires+swirl+remover&qid=1560188393&s=gateway&sr=8-3

    I would have gone for this one next time (It was sold out at wallmart which is the local place that carries these:
    https://www.amazon.com/Meguiars-Mirror-Glaze-Finishing-Polish/dp/B001O7PNXC/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=meguires+polish&qid=1560188499&s=gateway&sr=8-1

    My Process was:

    1) Iron-X (applied to slighly dirty car (washed it one week ago, youtube tips say this helps it to stick and not run).
    2) Foam cannon and wash, and rinse and dry.
    3) Claybar
    4) I did an ONR detail spray mixture wipe down instead of another wash.
    5) used a random orbital to polish the car. (most time consuming part)
    6) foam, wash, dry.
    7) Carpro Eraser Wipe down.
    8) One coat of ceramic, I hope I did this right. I would work a small area but it was hard to see it flashing on white paint. So I was sure to wipe it off before it dried.
    9) Next morning I put on another coat of ceramic, and also applied the left overs to the wheels.
    10) Next morning I put on the bottle of reloaded.

    ceramic.jpg
     
    • Like x 7
    • Informative x 6
    • Love x 2
    • Helpful x 1
  2. Burrito

    Burrito Member

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2019
    Messages:
    236
    Location:
    New jersey
    nice job, i did a similar process, after 2 coats i did a coat of carpro gliss. i wish i had more light in my garage, my car is gray so it was easier to see flashing but i still missed 1 or 2 spots on the buffing out of the ceramic and now the paint has a bit of a rainbow appearance . eventually ill polish it level and reapply but not enough to bother with the hassle. im "polished out" after the hours of polishing i did for prep
     
    • Like x 1
  3. Glamisduner

    Glamisduner Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2017
    Messages:
    2,943
    Location:
    Escondido, CA
    I hear that, my wife said I was acting like a crazy person with sever OCD with all the time I spent on it. Of course now she wants me to do her Volvo.
     
    • Funny x 7
    • Like x 2
  4. NathanielHrnblwr

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2015
    Messages:
    666
    Location:
    San Diego (Oceanside)
    I did similar but used the CarPro polish. Reload is great. I put that on every few months. Since you're local, I'd recommend the wash mist from Elite Detail. That stuff is great and works on everything. Nice wipe down spray for use in between washes. They're in Miramar near the original delivery center.
     
  5. Glamisduner

    Glamisduner Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2017
    Messages:
    2,943
    Location:
    Escondido, CA
    I have just been using ONR mixed 16-1 for a detail spray. Is this allot better? I'm planning to use beadmaker for a topper instead of reload, It really makes things feel slick, but it's probably not as durable.
     
  6. Burrito

    Burrito Member

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2019
    Messages:
    236
    Location:
    New jersey
    i started using bead maker after my reload ended. i love the slickness of beadmaker and the gloss is great. its also significantly cheaper. i just buy a gallon and use it after every wash
     
  7. bgreet

    bgreet Member

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2019
    Messages:
    8
    Location:
    Houston, Texas
    Did you treat the PPF any differently or did you use orbital polisher on it? Also, did you claybar ppf?
     
  8. NathanielHrnblwr

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2015
    Messages:
    666
    Location:
    San Diego (Oceanside)
    I don't know anything about ONR besides it being the latest internet fad, TBH. My concern was scratches when cleaning and this is what the detailer uses and recommends (their house brand, so take it for what it's worth), but they seem to know what they're doing considering the cars that roll through there. After putting in all the work I did on the paint correction and coating, I didn't want to mess it up with other products that have different bases such as waxes or polymers. I used to be a Zaino guy with the other cars so the ceramic stuff is new to me.

    I don't think ONR is silica based like reload it. Since the ceramic coating is silica based, it seems logical to supplement it with a silica based spray. They have another spray by Shine Supply that has a higher silica content than Reload, but since I have plenty of Reload, I haven't had the need to try it yet.
     
  9. NathanielHrnblwr

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2015
    Messages:
    666
    Location:
    San Diego (Oceanside)
    One does not polish or clay PPF to my knowledge. Only coat with approved coatings for the PPF.
     
    • Like x 1
  10. Burrito

    Burrito Member

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2019
    Messages:
    236
    Location:
    New jersey
    i dont have ppf but dont clay or polish it. any paint correction should have been done before ppf installation.
     
    • Like x 1
    • Love x 1
  11. Glamisduner

    Glamisduner Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2017
    Messages:
    2,943
    Location:
    Escondido, CA
    #11 Glamisduner, Jun 10, 2019
    Last edited: Jun 10, 2019
    ONR is just a cleaner, I think you meant bead maker? Reload is probably a better topper, but after using beadmaker I almost decided not to ceramic coat at all. I think the trick is just keeping something on top of the paint and on top of the ceramic, so either should do the trick. Beadmaker is allot cheaper, and even a little easier to apply than reload. You can just use it as a drying agent if you want to and that should last until the next car wash.


    I just washed it and let it sit in the sun for a bit then I just applied the ceramic over the top (in the shade), applying ceramic to PPF was the easy part :).
     
  12. JulienW

    JulienW Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2018
    Messages:
    735
    Location:
    Atlanta
    • Like x 2
  13. Roentgen

    Roentgen Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2016
    Messages:
    302
    Location:
    Southern California
    Tell her to get a Model 3 Performance, and you'll do it if you get to trade.
     
  14. Ckanderson

    Ckanderson Member

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2019
    Messages:
    460
    Location:
    Nashville
    They have been around since 2001, so "latest internet fad" might be a bit off.
     
    • Informative x 1
  15. Glamisduner

    Glamisduner Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2017
    Messages:
    2,943
    Location:
    Escondido, CA
    Already have a P3D :p
     
  16. bgreet

    bgreet Member

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2019
    Messages:
    8
    Location:
    Houston, Texas
    Thanks so much for the tips! Haven't seen a great how to on what to do with ceramic after PPF. From my searches it seems like some people say only stick with PPF specific ceramic, others say CQUARTZ uk works just fine. Is carpro eraser a good idea on the ppf prior to ceramic application?
     
    • Like x 1
  17. Glamisduner

    Glamisduner Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2017
    Messages:
    2,943
    Location:
    Escondido, CA
    I used eraser on it. I also just used CQUARTZ uk. Just make sure you don't let it harden, because you really don't want to be polishing PPF by hand. I have used some hand polish to remove a stain in my PPF, and it seems to have worked fine, but you don't typically want to polish PPF.
     
  18. bgreet

    bgreet Member

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2019
    Messages:
    8
    Location:
    Houston, Texas
    Thank you!
     
  19. NathanielHrnblwr

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2015
    Messages:
    666
    Location:
    San Diego (Oceanside)
    I'm not saying it is new, I'm saying it's the talk of the Internet in forums and /AutoDetailing. It is become popular over the last 12 months for one reason or another.
     
  20. Ckanderson

    Ckanderson Member

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2019
    Messages:
    460
    Location:
    Nashville
    Maybe people are just catching on to how easy it is to use?

    The pro detailers I know who use it have been using it for 8+ years.

    It really is that awesome.
     

Share This Page

  • About Us

    Formed in 2006, Tesla Motors Club (TMC) was the first independent online Tesla community. Today it remains the largest and most dynamic community of Tesla enthusiasts. Learn more.
  • Do you value your experience at TMC? Consider becoming a Supporting Member of Tesla Motors Club. As a thank you for your contribution, you'll get nearly no ads in the Community and Groups sections. Additional perks are available depending on the level of contribution. Please visit the Account Upgrades page for more details.


    SUPPORT TMC