Firearm storage model 3 [and other firearms discussion]

[Jigglypuff]

I understand that, but we’re talking short timeframes. I’m asking if the frunk is a reasonable option.

Given enough time, effort and the right circumstances anything can be stolen from anywhere.

But not my heart!

 

[rijc99]

Downside is someone could see you putting something in there. You could arm and disarm into the center console storage without anyone seeing you.

 

[MysticPowers]

Downside is someone could see you putting something in there. You could arm and disarm into the center console storage without anyone seeing you.

That I can live with. I’m generally getting things out of the frunk anyway (backpack, bags, etc).

 

[jonjong]

Console Vault recently started making safes for the 2017-2020 Tesla Model 3 and 2020 Model Y (all pre-refreshed center consoles). Here is a short installation video I made and I shared a 10% discount code the owner provided me to share with the group.

 

[SomeJoe7777]

Console Vault recently started making safes for the 2017-2020 Tesla Model 3 and 2020 Model Y (all pre-refreshed center consoles). Here is a short installation video I made and I shared a 10% discount code the owner provided me to share with the group.

I appreciate the effort that company has gone to in order to provide something that is well-hidden and inconspicuous.

However, I must point out that the 3-wheel combination lock is one of the lowest security options they could have picked. This type of combination lock can be opened by a relatively unskilled attacker in about 60 seconds, and by a skilled attacker in about 15.

This is a video from Lock Picking Lawyer, where he shows how to do this on a 4-wheel lock of a similar type (this is a key lock box rather than a small safe but the lock mechanism is nearly identical).

I feel this is insufficient security for a firearm. Cars get broken into all the time, and if the firearm gets stolen that just contributes to the problems we have with firearms. Law-abiding gun owners have an ethical obligation to keep their weapons from falling into the wrong hands.

 

[DayTrippin]

I had one of their vaults in a Ram pickup. They usually over 3 or 4 number options. Not sure on the Tesla one. Almost nothing will stop a determined thief, it may slow them down enough to get caught or look for easier targets.

If they make one for the '22 3 or S, I'll buy one for sure.

 

[BobAbooey]

I appreciate the effort that company has gone to in order to provide something that is well-hidden and inconspicuous.

However, I must point out that the 3-wheel combination lock is one of the lowest security options they could have picked. This type of combination lock can be opened by a relatively unskilled attacker in about 60 seconds, and by a skilled attacker in about 15.

This is a video from Lock Picking Lawyer, where he shows how to do this on a 4-wheel lock of a similar type (this is a key lock box rather than a small safe but the lock mechanism is nearly identical).

I feel this is insufficient security for a firearm. Cars get broken into all the time, and if the firearm gets stolen that just contributes to the problems we have with firearms. Law-abiding gun owners have an ethical obligation to keep their weapons from falling into the wrong hands.

they also make a 4 wheel combo and a barrel key ... you choose at checkout

 

[Lee Vining]

4 number combo on our Denali console compartment. 9MM Glock.
Wife is a nurse and last month a co worker was murdered about 50 yards away from her parking spot.
She now carries a 5 shot .38.
Canadian friends ask " What are you so afraid of to have to carry a gun?"

We listen to the news.

Another poor soul killed while charging his car at the Morongo Casino in Cabazon Cali.
We go there often.

 

[rijc99]

To those that ask why I carry… I have fire extinguishers and first aid kits in my house and car. I don’t expect to ever need them and yes I can call 911 if a fire breaks out or I need medical assistance. But they will be far away when a situation arises whereas the tools I’ve made available to me is an arm reach away. I may not be able to put out the fire or perform the necessary medical procedure but I will at least be able to say I tried my best.

 

[RichAZ/CapeCod]

I conceal a Ruger LC9 (9mm) between my legs in a slightly modified seat cover. You cannot see the handgun through the tinted windows of our MY.

Ruger when in the seat cover pocket.

Ruger entering the seat cover pocket.

 

[SomeJoe7777]

Here is a decent choice from Lock Picking Lawyer that he just reviewed today:

• No electronic weaknesses
• No physical bypasses
• Decently heavy construction
• Disc detainer backup lock, requires special tool and special skill to pick open

This should be your minimum for a gun safe.

 

[jonjong]

I appreciate the effort that company has gone to in order to provide something that is well-hidden and inconspicuous.

However, I must point out that the 3-wheel combination lock is one of the lowest security options they could have picked. This type of combination lock can be opened by a relatively unskilled attacker in about 60 seconds, and by a skilled attacker in about 15.

This is a video from Lock Picking Lawyer, where he shows how to do this on a 4-wheel lock of a similar type (this is a key lock box rather than a small safe but the lock mechanism is nearly identical).

I feel this is insufficient security for a firearm. Cars get broken into all the time, and if the firearm gets stolen that just contributes to the problems we have with firearms. Law-abiding gun owners have an ethical obligation to keep their weapons from falling into the wrong hands.

The truth of the matter is ANY lock and ANY safe can be hacked. I’ve dealt with criminals stealing/breaking into cars for most of my adult life and I will say that 99.9% of them don’t have the tools or knowledge to break into these types of gun safes.

You’re right that gun owners have an obligation to keep their guns safe. A car safe may not be the safest option but may be the best option available.

 

[rijc99]

Where would you mount that? And how? The lock may be pick proof but my fear is they can just walk away with the entire safe vs the console vault where it is more solidly mounted into the car.

 

[SomeJoe7777]

Where would you mount that? And how? The lock may be pick proof but my fear is they can just walk away with the entire safe vs the console vault where it is more solidly mounted into the car.

That's true of any safe. It would have to be securely mounted somewhere, as would any other.

It's regrettable that there are not more options on the market for secure storage without getting someone to custom design and fabricate something.

 

[TBrownTX]

Revving an old thread here. I have used a Vaultek Lifepod secured with a steel cable under the seat of several of my vehicles, especially when traveling. But darn it, the thing doesn't fit under the seat of the Model 3. Still searching for a good option that lets me securely stash my pistol when I'm in those pesky carry prohibited zones.

 

[Glamisduner]

Revving an old thread here. I have used a Vaultek Lifepod secured with a steel cable under the seat of several of my vehicles, especially when traveling. But darn it, the thing doesn't fit under the seat of the Model 3. Still searching for a good option that lets me securely stash my pistol when I'm in those pesky carry prohibited zones.

I'm looking too, I might go with the combo lock console vault. The key option may be more secure, but I don't carry keys anymore, granted that thre is always an option to start carrying a keys again...
I wonder if all combination locks are as easy as the one in the thread above to pick. Has anyone actully tried to pick the lock on the consolevault?
I also agree that most criminals probably don't carry around lock picking tools, but it does not seem adequate for a firearm if they can be picked that easily.
I also don't know if there is a way to get a USB cable in there to hold my hard drive for our camera footage. The older model 3's don't have USB stuff in the glovebox.

 

[Glamisduner]

How I could use this console vault: https://www.consolevault.com/assets/images/CVIS-1126_B.pdf
with this hard drive hiding device? TAPTES Tesla Model 3 & Model Y USB Hub, Fit 2020 Tesla Model 3 and 2020 Model Y (only mine is for a 2018).

What do you guys think about drilling a hole into the safe to pass a USB cable through?

My only other idea is to put a safe in the trunk, and tie it to the trunk release.

Then keep a small box in the car, so can transfer my firearm into the box, then get out open the trunk and put the box inside the trunk safe. The reason for the box is so that no one can see you putting a firearm into the safe. You could also detach your holster, and cover with a cloth, hat etc.

 

[rijc99]

How I could use this console vault: https://www.consolevault.com/assets/images/CVIS-1126_B.pdf
with this hard drive hiding device? TAPTES Tesla Model 3 & Model Y USB Hub, Fit 2020 Tesla Model 3 and 2020 Model Y (only mine is for a 2018).

What do you guys think about drilling a hole into the safe to pass a USB cable through?

My only other idea is to put a safe in the trunk, and tie it to the trunk release.

Then keep a small box in the car, so can transfer my firearm into the box, then get out open the trunk and put the box inside the trunk safe. The reason for the box is so that no one can see you putting a firearm into the safe. You could also detach your holster, and cover with a cloth, hat etc.

The Taptes box won’t fit. You could probably squeeze a cable into the secured area though. If someone was scoping out the lot and saw you putting a box or something hidden in cloth from the passenger compartment into the frunk/trunk I bet their first instinct would assume its a high value item you're trying to hide. You can place the whole holster and gun into the vault without drawing any attention.

 

[Glamisduner]

The Taptes box won’t fit. You could probably squeeze a cable into the secured area though. If someone was scoping out the lot and saw you putting a box or something hidden in cloth from the passenger compartment into the frunk/trunk I bet their first instinct would assume its a high value item you're trying to hide. You can place the whole holster and gun into the vault without drawing any attention.

I agree, which is why it isn't ideal and our laws are kinda stupid to force you into doing that. It would need to be hidden in like a towel or something or something not obvious...
Is there room to drill a hole in the top of this to pass the USB-C cable into the safe (maybe add a gromit for a clean fit)?

 

[rijc99]

I agree, which is why it isn't ideal and our laws are kinda stupid to force you into doing that. It would need to be hidden in like a towel or something or something not obvious...
Is there room to drill a hole in the top of this to pass the USB-C cable into the safe (maybe add a gromit for a clean fit)?

There is plenty of room to do a hole in the top of the box but that creates a weak point where they can put a tool to pry. I would look for one of those thin flat cables and squeeze it between the existing wall and safe.

Or if you're handy, you can cut a notch in the back section and weld on a new covering that can encompass the usb outlet. Then use a 90 degree usb cable to drop into the safe.

Something to be aware of, watch for people who may have seen you put something in the frunk when you are on your way back to the car. If they suspect it was something of value, they may be waiting for you.