AutoSteer and lane detection is much better on my 2017 S with this version.
Firmware 2019.24.1 [AP1/MCU1 - just sketchpad improvements]
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Just received 2019.20.4.3 last night. This is the second update I received without any notes on my screen for release notes. Has Tesla stopped posting the changes on the car when we get updates. If so where can I find what my changer are?
BozieBeMe2
May I have this dance?
For what it is worth,
Our 2015 MS85D, AP1, 20.4.2 66625e9, behaves a little worse on AP with this version of software.
On roads that we normally traveled before, with no issues, we really have to be alert now.
With this version of AP the car will stay exactly in the middle of it's lane, which is great except for when oncoming traffic seems to be crowding the center line!
I would think the car could see oncoming traffic and avoid it.
As for small rises in the road. - Straight stretches of 5 miles or more.
In our previous version of software (16.1.1 697c2ff) , the AP would drop out when the car lost the two blue guidance lines.
With this newer version of software, you can watch the AP screen and see where the software, briefly, "Draws" new lines.
This is new and helps keep the AP engaged, that is until the new lines shows an approaching left or right hand curve where there isn't any.
With the older AP1, there really isn't a lot left for Tesla to offer us but it would be nice if they could retain what we did have, prior to the update. It may not be conclusive but it seems our AP, as promised at time of purchase, it less capable now of doing what it really can do, (Mobileye let the car see more objects).
I can't help but feel that the older Mobileye software has taken a back set to the newer features in the NVIDIA software. I do appreciate that time moves on but surely there is a dedicated subset team to support the older AP and help maintain it's feature set?
Our 2015 MS85D, AP1, 20.4.2 66625e9, behaves a little worse on AP with this version of software.
On roads that we normally traveled before, with no issues, we really have to be alert now.
With this version of AP the car will stay exactly in the middle of it's lane, which is great except for when oncoming traffic seems to be crowding the center line!
I would think the car could see oncoming traffic and avoid it.
As for small rises in the road. - Straight stretches of 5 miles or more.
In our previous version of software (16.1.1 697c2ff) , the AP would drop out when the car lost the two blue guidance lines.
With this newer version of software, you can watch the AP screen and see where the software, briefly, "Draws" new lines.
This is new and helps keep the AP engaged, that is until the new lines shows an approaching left or right hand curve where there isn't any.
With the older AP1, there really isn't a lot left for Tesla to offer us but it would be nice if they could retain what we did have, prior to the update. It may not be conclusive but it seems our AP, as promised at time of purchase, it less capable now of doing what it really can do, (Mobileye let the car see more objects).
I can't help but feel that the older Mobileye software has taken a back set to the newer features in the NVIDIA software. I do appreciate that time moves on but surely there is a dedicated subset team to support the older AP and help maintain it's feature set?
Silicon Desert
Active Member
OH BOY ! I'm so happy. I've been wanting a $130,000 sketch pad for years
Really though, am I the only person on the planet that doesn't care about this? I have it on my phone and don't use it there either.
d21mike
Active Member
So my theory on lack of detailed notes (especially about autopilot) is that it creates a legal liability for Tesla if they say too much. Lets say they are rolling out 2019.32 now and it fixes an issue with autopilot in a specific situation (e.g. maybe driving the car into a gore point or not recognizing a crossing semi truck). If they mention that in the notes, and then someone gets in an accident on an earlier version because they haven't gotten the update yet, there could be legal liability for Tesla as the release notes themselves would prove that there was an issue, Tesla knew about it, did not immediately alert customers, and did not immediately fix the issue with an over the air update. Just a theory though, but maybe that's why it's better not to say too much in the release notes.
d21mike
Active Member
Good Theory. And this is the main reason I have said forever they need to allow for customers to request a download of the current version if they want. I do believe they fix these kinds of issues but do not allow everyone to get the update.
Look at the rest of the quoted post: “Tesla is wasting software design efforts in my view.” It’s not “wasting software design efforts” to release features lots of people find useful even if you don’t, personally.
zanary
Active Member
Actually you would be very disappointed from every other brand of car as the day you drive it off the lot, you won't get any updates or bug fixes... not even an awesome sketchpad or a fart machine...
Common, how many cars have been upgraded to be an awesome fart machine... ZERO!
FWIW I used to work somewhere where the legal team told us explicitly that we are not allowed to publish release notes or known issues or even check code in that explicitly specified a bug ticket number that describes a defect. Their explanation is that it could be construed as an admission of guilt.
Eventually they stopped caring but I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s more lawyers who believe release notes are more risk than benefit.
f205v
Member
Is autosteering still limited in radius here in Europe?
I have stopped updating since 2019.12.1.1 to avoid the short radius issue with autosteering/autopilot, but would like to know if it's still there or not.
I have stopped updating since 2019.12.1.1 to avoid the short radius issue with autosteering/autopilot, but would like to know if it's still there or not.
Silicon Desert
Active Member
Uh, release notes may not always appear immediately after an update, and it sounds like you may have seen a blank screen. If so, close the screen and re-open it with the "T" press. You may have to wait up to 30 seconds for notes to appear.
Silicon Desert
Active Member
Cute. I like it.
And you reminded me of something: Some years ago I ran into a client that was known for asking these strange psychological questions to people being interviewed. He asked "Are you a person that typically thinks the glass is half full or half empty?' I said, "It's not a binary answer. You chose a glass that was twice bigger than what you needed to hold the liquid." They hired me as a consultant on the spot
And yup, there are a lot of other answers to that question.
powaking
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Cute. I like it.
And you reminded me of something: Some years ago I ran into a client that was known for asking these strange psychological questions to people being interviewed. He asked "Are you a person that typically thinks the glass is half full or half empty?' I said, "It's not a binary answer. You chose a glass that was twice bigger than what you needed to hold the liquid." They hired me as a consultant on the spot
I always like to respond to that question with "how was the glass before?". If it were full then its half empty, if it were empty its half full.
sevenout
Member
Why did the mods move this thread under User Interface? Haven't all new software version threads been listed under the main Model S section?
Exactly. Release notes may not reflect fixes. The fact it is focused on AP2.0 cars -- and not a lot of them -- suggests it may have other fixes
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