If you are talking about FSD ... that was already discussed. Buyers should know what they are getting into and that has nothing to do with the affordability issue. So compare the SR+ with no FSD at $39.9K to an F-150 avg selling price at $47.6K. In that example, there's no such option that Tesla is not delivering on, and in fact, with all the OTA updates, you are getting more value as the car gets older. That *never* happens with any other car.
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If you are talking about FSD ... that was already discussed. Buyers should know what they are getting into and that has nothing to do with the affordability issue. So compare the SR+ with no FSD at $39.9K to an F-150 avg selling price at $47.6K. In that example, there's no such option that Tesla is not delivering on, and in fact, with all the OTA updates, you are getting more value as the car gets older. That *never* happens with any other car.
diplomat33
Average guy who loves autonomous vehicles
I think it is based on Elon saying that this update is only a 1/2 "fire emoticon" if you don't have pedestrian speakers. Although, I think 1/2 "fire" is Elon's way of saying "half the awesome", not literally 1/2 the number of features.
SK360
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You are getting features when you pay for FSD. Just not what is listed as coming soon. Not quite the same as an analogy where you get nothing upfront.
ok, so Ford installs a night vision screen in a 6” x 6” square for the passenger and says “technically we meet the requirements “
Major disappointment. Gimmicks and Games .26
Yup.
So far I've gotten one feature for the thousands of dollars I paid for FSD: my car stops at stoplights and stop signs.
"yay"
EVNow
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No it’s not. Assuming it is genuine, if the features are in development and meant to have come out now, some features are delayed to part II, and not by design.
I wouldn't assume that about anything Elon says anymore, at least about the future of Tesla products.
Not that it matters (I live / drive mostly in a place where there are notoriously no red lights) but do you need AP HW 2.5/3 for that or does it work on HW2 (and MCU 1)?
Because si far all I’ve gotten from FSD is a very expensive invoice and a bunch of canceled appointments for the AP HW upgrade..
M109Rider
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Why is it again, you own a car that causes you so much pain and anxiety day in and day out ?
Resale is pretty good right now. You’re a lawyer, so you can afford to swap to say a Hellcat, or a Bolt, or an iPace.
Seriously, why not switch. Please...
ucmndd
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Yeah, I’m not buying it. There’s no magic “part 2”. Just the next release, like always.
bobby g
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I am soooo 
No part 1, no part 2 and not even an external speaker with which to rasberry the world
No part 1, no part 2 and not even an external speaker with which to rasberry the world
It appears that the current roll out of "part 1" is only going to cars with speakers now and those of us with early vins are going to have to wait. Sorta of backwards-- Merry Christmas early adopters! Looking at the Vins on Teslafi for this build install it looks like the only low vins are MY. Just saying----
Elon just said that it'll be 2 or 3 more versions of FSD Beta before the rest of the EARLY ACCESS drivers get it. What in the actual F. We've all been waiting for years and now they're going to role it out to another group and STILL not wide release it? When will the rest of us get the BETA... 2022?
EVNow
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LOL - "anymore" ? Shorts tried that with Tesla a lot - how did that work out?
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