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Firmware 5.0

Lloyd

Well-Known Member
Jan 12, 2011
6,252
2,039
San Luis Obispo, CA
I pressed it and it brought up a screen for 3G subscriptions.

With 5.0 I also noticed that connection to an HPWC allows 80 amps immediately without having to manually increase from 60.
 

FlasherZ

Sig Model S + Sig Model X + Model 3 Resv
Jun 21, 2012
7,024
1,013
I pressed it and it brought up a screen for 3G subscriptions.

With 5.0 I also noticed that connection to an HPWC allows 80 amps immediately without having to manually increase from 60.

Yes, 5.0 removes the 61-amp shuffle. :) Yay!
 

dsm363

Roadster + Sig Model S
May 17, 2009
18,278
151
Nevada
I pressed it and it brought up a screen for 3G subscriptions.

With 5.0 I also noticed that connection to an HPWC allows 80 amps immediately without having to manually increase from 60.

I'm still within my 1 year Sig package I guess. What does it say for the subscriptions and prices?
 

kendallpb

Model S: P 8061
Oct 29, 2010
1,251
52
MD, USA
The cloth seats have heaters.

...unless, like mine (pre-end-of-year-price-increase), they don't. ;-)

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While that is what the user sees, the under-the-hood (sorry) details of power management and sleep are very complicated and they likely had many bugs to solve. There are lots of independent systems which interact and I bet they had trouble putting them to sleep and bringing them back up so that everything was happy and consistent.

As for the 45-second wakeup, well free lunches and all that.

I get all that, but I wish it were an option to select in Settings. I need this kind of mode rarely. The car's near-instant responsiveness in all situations, including not waiting to start driving (and the not-quick-but-hardly-45-second remote app access), is very convenient and a strength of the car. (It doesn't hurt that it demos well, too.) Ah well, maybe a future version will make this optional.

I wonder how long it waits to "sleep"....
 

AlMc

'When the music is on...you gotta dance' (Go Elon)
Apr 23, 2013
7,346
15,494
Delaware
...unless, like mine (pre-end-of-year-price-increase), they don't. ;-)

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I get all that, but I wish it were an option to select in Settings. I need this kind of mode rarely. The car's near-instant responsiveness in all situations, including not waiting to start driving (and the not-quick-but-hardly-45-second remote app access), is very convenient and a strength of the car. (It doesn't hurt that it demos well, too.) Ah well, maybe a future version will make this optional.

I wonder how long it waits to "sleep"....

As long as the car boots up quickly when I want to drive I can plan for the 45 second connect to the car via the app.
 

cinergi

Active Member
Sep 17, 2010
2,176
40
MA
Maybe I missed it, but does anyone know what screen lies behind that button?

I'm a sig and this is what I get

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Maybe it was just my eyes, but I couldn't read the small print under the cleaning mode button that I assume would tell you how to get OUT of cleaning mode.

IMG_1147.JPG


IMG_1148.JPG
 

Discoducky

Happy owner of a P100D X and a brand new 2021 M3!
Dec 25, 2011
3,345
2,615
Seattle
I'm with FlasherZ, screen cleaning button FTW! but I'm secretly hoping that I don't lose more than 1 mile overnight after 5.0
 

cinergi

Active Member
Sep 17, 2010
2,176
40
MA
While I applaud Tesla's effort to reduce idle power consumption, I'm kind of scratching my head over this one. Is this implementation not EXACTLY how "Power Down Displays" worked in the early 4.0 releases? Can someone explain how this implementation is better? The 45 second mobile app connection time is slightly concerning, as this is how my Leaf app works and it is very annoying.

It's quite different. It's a partial implementation of sleep mode. The 17" screen comes on instantly. The instrument cluster, if it powered down, takes < 10 seconds to power up (which you have to wait before before you can get the car into drive). Not sure how long it is before it goes to sleep. I haven't had the mobile app take long to connect even if the is in this new sleep state.
 

FlasherZ

Sig Model S + Sig Model X + Model 3 Resv
Jun 21, 2012
7,024
1,013
As long as the car boots up quickly when I want to drive I can plan for the 45 second connect to the car via the app.

3 seconds from opening the door to the time the 17" screen displays its goodies and music begins playing from Slacker (via WiFi).
11 seconds from opening the door to the time that the instrument cluster shows the full display.
 

AlMc

'When the music is on...you gotta dance' (Go Elon)
Apr 23, 2013
7,346
15,494
Delaware
It's not quite that good (yet). It's roughly 1/2 the pre-5.0 consumption.

Quick start up time, half or less the vampire loss, screen cleaning, wifi connectivity..........Sounds like a lot has been improved with this release...Thanks TM

If connecting thru the app is slower I can live with that....Just have to remember before leaving a store, work, etc. to plan on giving myself and the S 45-60 seconds to connect....no problem
 

Denarius

Active Member
Apr 27, 2013
1,378
84
Utah
Would be nice if car didn't sleep until 4.5 hours after driving. Normal work day you wouldn't deal with sleep, over night and time at the airport would safe a bunch of energy.
 

AlMc

'When the music is on...you gotta dance' (Go Elon)
Apr 23, 2013
7,346
15,494
Delaware
Would be nice if car didn't sleep until 4.5 hours after driving. Normal work day you wouldn't deal with sleep, over night and time at the airport would safe a bunch of energy.
But it has been reported that the car wakes up from the sleep mode within 10 seconds of unlocking/opening the door. Seems the biggest concern with the sleep mode is that the Tesla app takes longer to connect with the car...45 seconds or so. So, the way I understand it, if you want the car heated/cooled before you leave work you need to plan to open the app a minute before you normally would but once you get to the car it starts up quickly.
 

Denarius

Active Member
Apr 27, 2013
1,378
84
Utah
But it has been reported that the car wakes up from the sleep mode within 10 seconds of unlocking/opening the door. Seems the biggest concern with the sleep mode is that the Tesla app takes longer to connect with the car...45 seconds or so. So, the way I understand it, if you want the car heated/cooled before you leave work you need to plan to open the app a minute before you normally would but once you get to the car it starts up quickly.

10 seconds to drive isn't bad. Half the time I forget to load the app until I'm walking out. At 45 seconds I will be in the car before it starts cooling. Guess I'll have to learn to think ahead.
 

pete8314

Vendor
Jun 4, 2012
2,351
630
DFW, ex UK
Anybody know what the torque improvements are for creep mode? I'd not noticed any issues with it, but I have always wondered, when the car is stationary and held with the brake, is the creep off, or does is fight with the brake as an ICE car would? Much like knowing if the fridge light goes off when you close the door, except that's easy to test :)
 

jomo25

Active Member
Mar 16, 2012
2,105
224
Scottsdale, AZ
Anybody know what the torque improvements are for creep mode? I'd not noticed any issues with it, but I have always wondered, when the car is stationary and held with the brake, is the creep off, or does is fight with the brake as an ICE car would? Much like knowing if the fridge light goes off when you close the door, except that's easy to test :)
the latter. its why, when stopped, unless you put firm pressure on the brake, you might feel a slight stutter, as if the car wants to move forward.

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a thought i had re: 5.0 rollout timing: Because of the inherent costs of giving away free 3G, I wouldnt be surprised if the 5.0 rollout is much quicker than 4.5 The quicker 5.0 is out there, the quicker Tesla can start charging for 3G data. Unless there are significant bugs with the update.
 

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