Spoke with an inside source. Wiring harness is there and leads to the LR tire area. Issue is that there is no "brain/ECU" or sensors installed. That individual didn't now whether it would have retrofits for existing cars though.
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Named after what the driver says to himself when he notices he ran out of range quicker than expected (or "did a broder").
dirkhh
Middle-aged Member
I noticed "Charging Units kWh / distance" - that seems useful for the people who have a good grip at their own typical Wh/ml (but then, maybe the new "Typical" range does a better job of that, too).
ken830
Model S 85, Model 3 Performance, Model X LongRange
The second-row heated seats look nice, but kinda sucks if the second-row passengers can't control their own seat-heater setting.
gelden
Well-Known Member
I guess these are the local street names. Would be difficult to navigate if they translated those
Was kind of thinking that you could seat the boss/co-worker/"friend" you don't really like back there and selectively heat their buns.
I'm hoping it's based on driving history (the way most people think that a driving-history rating would work, I mean). But it's probably based on aggregate data from many cars...which also would be okay.
Yay, a math joke! :-D
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I disagree; "typical" is generally used to mean what most people, or the average person, would get, so by removing the word ideal, people won't think it means "typical of ideal driving"--by that logic, you could also call rated miles "typical," since they're "typical of people who drive like an EPA test." ;-) People will think "oh, most people/I will get this # of miles."
Changing that word, they'd better be using a different calculation--and I bet they are. Their "ideal" calculation is misleading; few people seem to get that in the real world--it's not a typical (!) result.
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P.S. to clarify, I'm disagreeing that "typical" is better, grammatically, in this context. Used in a sentence like you did--great. As a single word to describe something--grammar's irrelevant, but it would be a very misleading word to use if it's still the current "ideal" calculation. Sorry, my comment was unclear on what I was referring to!
AustinPowers
Total Smeghead
If you have kids you will be able to appreciate that they can't control their own seat heating device (or any device associated with interesting buttons/controls) or at least that you can override it from the front. ;-)
ken830
Model S 85, Model 3 Performance, Model X LongRange
I do have a daughter. But she's only 6-months old and can't reach anything from her infant carrier... :tongue:
Volker.Berlin
Member
If you mean the safety option at the very top, it is a setting to disable the passenger airbag. That is because in Europe, it has been proven safer to have rear-facing kids seat in the front passenger seat.
I actually made a forum entry requesting this a while back and caught some criticism for it, but if you want to hear the other side you can read my links to the studies done by a Swedish insurance company in the thread. Although I would have liked to see that option here, I'm glad to see that Tesla adapted their cars to the local market (probably local regulation so maybe it wasn't their choice, but anyway.)
Oreo
Member
Sorry meant to say Sequrity, not safety.
The button saying Tilt/Intrusion, although it seems to be disabled (compared with the other buttons), the same with the Airbag on/off for passenger side.
The Tilt thing is a feature in the SEQURITY package option, which is the only option I did not go for.
The button saying Tilt/Intrusion, although it seems to be disabled (compared with the other buttons), the same with the Airbag on/off for passenger side.
The Tilt thing is a feature in the SEQURITY package option, which is the only option I did not go for.
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wdimagineer
Member
Oreo - what does the "fog" button do in lighting controls? Rear fog? This is something I'd like to see if I can activate on my car through service. I live in SF and have found it to be useful. I've been able to retrofit it on other cars by buying a European headlight switch but that's obviously not possible with Model S.
NigelM
Recovering Member
^^^ Red rear fog lights are mandatory in the EU, although they're usually/often on the same circuit/switch as the front fog lights.
gelden
Well-Known Member
I've never seen them on the same circuit. Would be strange as different rules apply for when you can use the front fog light vs the rear fog light.
NigelM
Recovering Member
I've owned plenty of cars in Europe where there was one switch for fog lights, front and rear combined. Maybe it changed in recent years?
wdimagineer
Member
Must have. All of the recent European cars I've owned have had 2 switches for front and rear. Volvo and Audi seem to ship cars here with a rear fog switch. VW and BMW do not.
Anything I can do to make myself more visible in fog or heavy rain is a bonus to me.
Laumb
smrtass.
On my old (2003) Audi A4 the switch was designet så that you pull it backwards. One step for front, two Steps for front and rear.
This is true to all cars using that same switch: VW, Audi, Seat, Skoda ++ from ish 1996 - 2007/8.
This is true to all cars using that same switch: VW, Audi, Seat, Skoda ++ from ish 1996 - 2007/8.
Also, on most VAG cars (and others, I'm sure) the fog light switch pops back in when you turn the lights off, so you don't get people driving around with rear fog lights on weeks after the fog went away.
Based on 20yrs of driving in the UK, I'm not sure if rear fogs are safer - people are so prone to leaving them on, or turning them on when they shouldn't, making the brake lights far less obvious. I think the Highway Code says that visibility should be <100yrds before using them, but very few people observe that rule. There was a period when the police started to pull people over for incorrect use of rear-fogs, but they don't seem to do that any more.
Based on 20yrs of driving in the UK, I'm not sure if rear fogs are safer - people are so prone to leaving them on, or turning them on when they shouldn't, making the brake lights far less obvious. I think the Highway Code says that visibility should be <100yrds before using them, but very few people observe that rule. There was a period when the police started to pull people over for incorrect use of rear-fogs, but they don't seem to do that any more.
Oreo
Member
I'd assume the "Fog" button activates the fog lights, but I have no idea if it is front, back or both. I didn't check that unfortunately.
Maybe as Laumb says, there could be a combination button. Therefor we should be able to see tha car from the back as well as the front. Next upgrade perhaps??? (or I doubt it). Agree that it's really annoying when people don't turn their rear foglights off, I don't mind the front ones.
Maybe as Laumb says, there could be a combination button. Therefor we should be able to see tha car from the back as well as the front. Next upgrade perhaps??? (or I doubt it). Agree that it's really annoying when people don't turn their rear foglights off, I don't mind the front ones.
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