IF the mods allow this to stay... it is a thread for pre-driver assist, pre-D owners. Yes, that's right! I'm brown, lacewood, P (all antique) AND I'M PROUD. So proud, I spent an extra 5k after D announcement to paint correct and wrap my car! I want a new FW thread that's for grizzled vets: no release anxiety, no "I didn't get it", no "I got it", no redundant posting of the release notes! AND, no endless discussion of ACC, lack of blind spot detection, and other driver assist stuff we ain't got. SO, if you're an antique P85, P85+, 85, 60, or 40 owner and have some insight on 6.1, put it here!