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Firmware 7.0
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Todd Burch
14-Year Member
Autopilot drove me to work this morning--about 70% of my 35 mile drive. Thoughts:
1. About 15 mi of my morning commute was on the interstate at 70 mph. It did a pretty good job (great job?) on the highway. (I don't know, I have no experience with automatic steering in other cars so don't have anything to compare it against). I did not touch the steering wheel at all for the 15 minutes after I entered the highway until I approached the exit ramp. However, I kept my hands right by the wheel--and will continue to do so for quite awhile.
2. TACC is much better at handling cars that change lanes in front of you (much less abrupt slowing down--much more gradual).
3. The steering on the highway is occasionally slightly jerky. This usually happened when going over a bridge/overpass in which the pavement changed from light-colored asphalt to dark-colored asphalt. It stayed in the lane, but corrected a little more aggresively than a human would. I'm sure this will smooth out over time.
4. I drove about 10 miles on surface streets with autopilot engaged. A word of warning: This is obviously not recommended by Tesla, and if you want to try this, I *strongly* urge you to be extremely cautious. When I did this, I kept my hands loosely wrapped around the wheel (not touching it, but squeezing my hands would have grabbed it) almost the entire time. There were three times where I had to take control suddenly:
a. The first was when traveling into the sun, and I was on a 4-lane divided country road (2 lanes in each direction). I was in the left lane, and a turn lane split off to the left. The lanes were painted, but the car tried to steer toward the turn lane--it seemed fairly abruptly (more abrupt than I would have turned if I were going into that turn lane). I immediately took over.
b. A little further down the same road--again painted fairly well, but facing the morning sun--the car started drifting to the left too much for my comfort, so I took over. Sun was probably a factor.
c. In the middle of intersections (unpainted lanes), if following a car it seems to do ok, however there is an occasional slightly jerky correction. Without a car to follow, sometimes it worked, and sometimes I felt like I had to take over.
So that's my first experience with autopilot. Overall, TACC is smoother. I had a few pucker factor moments with autopilot, so I urge everyone to use caution for awhile until you really get to know the limits of the system. But it is pretty good for its intended use, and should only be getting better.
1. About 15 mi of my morning commute was on the interstate at 70 mph. It did a pretty good job (great job?) on the highway. (I don't know, I have no experience with automatic steering in other cars so don't have anything to compare it against). I did not touch the steering wheel at all for the 15 minutes after I entered the highway until I approached the exit ramp. However, I kept my hands right by the wheel--and will continue to do so for quite awhile.
2. TACC is much better at handling cars that change lanes in front of you (much less abrupt slowing down--much more gradual).
3. The steering on the highway is occasionally slightly jerky. This usually happened when going over a bridge/overpass in which the pavement changed from light-colored asphalt to dark-colored asphalt. It stayed in the lane, but corrected a little more aggresively than a human would. I'm sure this will smooth out over time.
4. I drove about 10 miles on surface streets with autopilot engaged. A word of warning: This is obviously not recommended by Tesla, and if you want to try this, I *strongly* urge you to be extremely cautious. When I did this, I kept my hands loosely wrapped around the wheel (not touching it, but squeezing my hands would have grabbed it) almost the entire time. There were three times where I had to take control suddenly:
a. The first was when traveling into the sun, and I was on a 4-lane divided country road (2 lanes in each direction). I was in the left lane, and a turn lane split off to the left. The lanes were painted, but the car tried to steer toward the turn lane--it seemed fairly abruptly (more abrupt than I would have turned if I were going into that turn lane). I immediately took over.
b. A little further down the same road--again painted fairly well, but facing the morning sun--the car started drifting to the left too much for my comfort, so I took over. Sun was probably a factor.
c. In the middle of intersections (unpainted lanes), if following a car it seems to do ok, however there is an occasional slightly jerky correction. Without a car to follow, sometimes it worked, and sometimes I felt like I had to take over.
So that's my first experience with autopilot. Overall, TACC is smoother. I had a few pucker factor moments with autopilot, so I urge everyone to use caution for awhile until you really get to know the limits of the system. But it is pretty good for its intended use, and should only be getting better.
Vger
Active Member
We did not get the notice, but went out to the garage and saw it was ready to install on our P85D by 5:30am PT. Installing now.
No love for our venerable Signature P85 yet, but I suppose that is appropriate prioritization!
Todd Burch
14-Year Member
There is NO nag if not needed. Like I wrote above, I drove 15 minutes on the highway this morning without a single nag. Never touched the wheel.
Electricfan
Active Member
Drove to work with autopilot this morning - Houston rush hour traffic - 35 mile commute.
Its going to take getting used to. It requires you to keep your hands on the wheel - horrible! Hopefully when its not "BETA" anymore this will go away. Pretty much kills the idea of the car driving itself, at least to me.
I hope they improve the algorithm. It hugs the outside of the curve instead of the inside for some reason. And when passing other cars it doesn't move over any to give them room. I think most of us like a little space between our car and the car in the next lane.
It did change lanes well. Sometimes if traffic is heavy it won't change and you have to do it yourself. But if its clear enough it changes decisively. Once it told me to "TAKE OVER IMMEDIATELY" after I finished a lane change but I think it might be that I was changing lanes right into an exit ramp off the freeway - maybe it got confused.
I was nervous the whole time, so it didn't really "help my commute" this time. Hopefully as I get used to it I'll be able to relax and enjoy it.
It never did anything dangerous. It handled close calls when other cars dived in front of me well, and when there was a large concrete barrier lining the road next to the car it didn't have any problem.
Generally very impressed. Hoping for improvements.
Its going to take getting used to. It requires you to keep your hands on the wheel - horrible! Hopefully when its not "BETA" anymore this will go away. Pretty much kills the idea of the car driving itself, at least to me.
I hope they improve the algorithm. It hugs the outside of the curve instead of the inside for some reason. And when passing other cars it doesn't move over any to give them room. I think most of us like a little space between our car and the car in the next lane.
It did change lanes well. Sometimes if traffic is heavy it won't change and you have to do it yourself. But if its clear enough it changes decisively. Once it told me to "TAKE OVER IMMEDIATELY" after I finished a lane change but I think it might be that I was changing lanes right into an exit ramp off the freeway - maybe it got confused.
I was nervous the whole time, so it didn't really "help my commute" this time. Hopefully as I get used to it I'll be able to relax and enjoy it.
It never did anything dangerous. It handled close calls when other cars dived in front of me well, and when there was a large concrete barrier lining the road next to the car it didn't have any problem.
Generally very impressed. Hoping for improvements.
ratsbew
Active Member
mobe
Member
I did not experience that. It only asked me to hold the wheel twice during the 20 mile commute and that was while going around fairly sharp curves.
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Did it serve coffee and donuts on the way.
yes, but the coffee was too weak and had too much creamer. It will probably improve with version 7.1.
I'll very happily admit to possibly making a judgement too soon, based on only one video. Glad to hear it wasn't your experience. Can't wait to try it out for myself, hopefully in the next few minutes or so!
BertL
Active Member
S90D (running 6.2) connected via home WiFi, and plugged into my HPWC
- 12:39AM Software Update is Available
- 04:10AM Started Update
- 06:01AM Software Update Complete
- 06:20AM Enabled Autosteer and Auto Lane Change Settings
- 12:39AM Software Update is Available
- 04:10AM Started Update
- 06:01AM Software Update Complete
- 06:20AM Enabled Autosteer and Auto Lane Change Settings
Vger
Active Member
Great early report, thanks!
This is an interesting observation, and seems to imply that the lane recognition is biased toward looking first for the edges of the total pavement, making it vulnerable when the road enlarges (another degree of freedom opening up).
Hopefully your data just made the "fleet" smarter already! :wink:
Todd Burch
14-Year Member
Yes--I did not have my turn signal on, and had the car been paying more attention to the dashed stripes to the car's right (the middle of the two lanes of traffic going in one direction), it should have continued tracking the lane. This is I'm sure something that will be improved fairly rapidly...probably within a month.
Vger
Active Member
It must be a white-knuckled "Christmas Morning" for the AutoPilot engineers, as well as Elon! I imagine that a bunch of them will be glued to the telemetry coming back from the fleet to see how these early experiences are going. Sure they have the previous beta data, but now the data rate is going up by one or two orders of magnitude in just a matter of hours!
bmanke
Member
What are you talking about having to keep your hands on the steering wheel? See my pictures - mine was driving without my hands on the steering wheel. Although you should certainly keep them ready just in case. If you are referring to the legal warnings - well obviously the lawyers are going to require the disclaimer that your hands must be on the steering wheel.
Brett
Member
It takes an 1.5 hours to upgrade. You will need to add that into your timeline once you get to it!
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