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Discussion in 'Model S' started by NOLA_Mike, Jan 9, 2016.
Yes, I have the Beta. I'm installing the release now though and I'll check.
So just confirmed that in the release 8.0, even if there is a passenger sitting in the front right seat, the screen still turns off when the drives leaves, just as in the Beta. You can tap the screen as before and it will stay on for 30 mins now. That's all they added.
I wouldn't have even bothered putting that as a bullet point in the release notes/blog post in that case, assuming that said engineer isn't getting paid by the character for his/her release note!
So how is that different than 7.1 behavior?
Apparently in 7.1, once the passenger touched the screen, it only stayed on for 15 min. Now it stays on for 30. Whoop-ti-do!
So, in other words, changing the low-order five bits of a single byte of memory merits a bullet item in the release notes.
I updated to the latest 7.x 2 days ago. Is it just me or does auto-steer now need less torque on the wheel to take back control? I always hated how jerky this was - now it's super smooth.
I hadn't noticed that, but I do feel like 2.36.31 made the false hold wheel warnings less common, which if real would be a related adjustment.
I noticed a big change for the better on' MX; it used to be that responding to the nag took me out of AP because the wheel moved too much.
You don't need to move the wheel, just have mass on it. It can take up to a few seconds to determine that you've put hands on it, so be patient instrad of moving the wheel.
If you're driving on a straight, smooth road what occasion does the car have to apply torque to the wheel to notice your mass?
It's constantly making ultra-small adjustments that you don't notice, but the sensitive torque encoder can sense them. Trust me, that's how it works. You can literally tape something with a little mass to the wheel and it will think you are touching it. (don't do this!) This is also why it takes a few seconds sometimes to detect the mass.
I trust you -- my question wasn't rhetorical. Thanks for the explanation. Do you know whether there's any interaction between this
sensing mechanism and the steering mode (i.e., Sport, Standard, etc.)?
Roger, I have standard mode...S90D like you. My right arm dangles off the wheel and rests on my knee, with a few fingers holding at 3 o'clock. Its just enough pressure on the wheel without disrupting AP or steering in any way. I shift to the opposite arm/knee randomly for a change up. I am on AP 75% of my miles, and hardly ever receive nags unless AP looses the road and hands it back to me. Last week I had a 'P' loaner and drove in sport; noticed no difference in adapting my habits.
I hold the wheel exactly like NW does and have no nags.
IMHO the torque needed is still quite a lot, especially if your driving style is to apply as little torque to the wheel as possible (which is the right way to drive anyway, no matter what the condition). I have to tug on the wheel harder than I would like to defeat the hold warning.
I don't. Not sure why but I have a one handed light touch and get zero nags.
Might there be a different amount of torque required when responding to or correcting a nag, versus consistent prevention of a nag? Or in an unconscious but reflexive effort to correct, the force to overcome the lag effect referenced by Ingineer is more than really necessary?
Interesting to observe such differences which I chalk up (rightly or wrongly) to our driving styles vs inconsistent application of firmware. Always interested in learning the actual reasons though. Avoiding nags is effortless and I'm barely grasping the wheel. Just slight downward pull only.
What steering setting?