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Firmware 8.0

Discussion in 'Model S' started by Jeeps17, Jun 30, 2016.

  1. sorka

    sorka Well-Known Member

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    After going through detailed screen shots of the release, I'm somewhat disappointed that scheduled charging hasn't been improved.

    1) No ability to target end time so that charging starts when needed in order to finish charging at the time you select (when rates transistion to off peak) so that you stay within the TOU range but charge as late as possible so the battery is as warm as possible.

    2) No TOU scheduling for weekday, weekends, and holidays.

    Even the Nissan Leaf and Chevy Volt can do this with many many detailed options.
     
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  2. Ingineer

    Ingineer Electrical Engineer

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    Offramp works for me about 80% of the time on the Beta. I signal well in advance and it seems to get it more often. Sometimes it tries then throws in the towel.
     
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  3. supratachophobia

    supratachophobia Active Member

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    By fix, do you mean WE NEED WAYPOINTS?
     
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  4. Hans Noordsij

    Hans Noordsij Well-Known Member

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    Als dit leest dan lijkt het wat milder en moet je erg je best doen om een tik op de vingers te krijgen.

    Tesla Drivers Wake Up to a Serious Upgrade
     
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  5. msnow

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    #1345 msnow, Sep 22, 2016
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    ;) Yeah, that too but I don't have the update yet so I'm relying on what others say it has and doesn't have. The Bloomberg review just tweeted by Elon is very fair and he describes the same issue I have with it but on 8.0. It's inaccurate and plans a wrong or strange route often. In his case it had him taking side streets from Brooklyn to Manhattan and gave an estimate of 20 minutes when the actual time would have been over an hour in traffic. Like me he is forced to use his phone app to get good directions rather than use Tesla Nav.
     
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  6. shoot72

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    Moet zeggen dat ik niet veel heb gemerkt dat het zich veel anders, zeg strenger gedraagd dan voorheen. Wat wel echt anders is dat rechts inhalen niet meer gebeurd. tenzij het een file situatie is. Ook de weergave van de auto's voor je is ook beter. Alles wordt beter vanaf het juiste perspectief getoond.

    Verder ben ik erg tevreden over de media player. Mijn spotify bug is eindelijk weg! Het ziet erg fris uit en veel overzichtelijker.
     
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  7. sorka

    sorka Well-Known Member

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    keep in mind that voice search first speech to texts your voice via the service and then sends that back to the search box. If you type it in manually, you bypass this step but the search is still made from the text entered into the search box regardless of whether it was by voice or by hand.
     
  8. twall-e

    twall-e Roaming

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    Dat is goed om te horen (en @Hans Noordsij ik zal inderdaad volgende keer minder skeptisch zijn) - leuk dat jij een van de 11 bent dan op ev-fw.com met de 8.0 (of was jij een van de beta-rijders)? Benieuwd of ik 'm morgen ook mag gaan vangen!
     
  9. supratachophobia

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    Do we know if the reason for the odd routing is based on just amount of energy consumed? Because that would make sense to me. I think there will need to be at least two route options in the future (quickest, least energy, then maybe least miles/freedom units), but I understand doing it that way for an electric car.
     
  10. BertL

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    I'm trying hard to not form my own opinion of 8.0 until I can use it myself. Even with well meaning posters, IMHO there are many things which are subjective -- especially when it comes to human interfaces, and honestly each of us have different features or expectations that are important or bug us more than others. Such is ergonomics and dealing with a growing populous of owners and prospective buyers, and top that off with most of us being outspoken enthusiasts, many who have owned other EV and non-EV luxury vehicles.

    ...all that to say, I think most of us know by now that Elon is a master of creating excitement and use of media. Don't get me wrong, I really appreciate getting effectively a new car with new functionality for free like we will soon have with 8.0. THAT Is fabulous. My concern remains sort of along the lines of your comment "tweaks, fixes and a couple of cowbells and dog whistles", that Elon and Tesla have delivered another step of AP enhancements as we expect will keep coming towards THE vision, but many of the other changes are based on their perception of what customers want or need, vs. the reality of what customers are truly asking for, and in some cases what the competition already delivers. E.g. I've not yet correlated the top recommendations from the nearly 300 TMC members requirements prioritization work we did last Fall and was delivered to a secret connected executive somewhere inside of Tesla, or against the list of missing Infotainment functions in comparative luxury vehicles I put together earlier this year. My first impression from release notes, and posts from the few that have the new drop is any correlation is coincidence. The best example remains with the #1 requested feature: "Where are Waypoints?" ...but once I get 8.0 and have some time with it, watch out, another of my long bulletized posts will be on the way when I've spent some time correlating facts and putting my thoughts together. ;). Hopefully I get 8.0 before I leave for my short road trip next week!
     
  11. bmah

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    Brief digression...

    The BMW 330e Performance has a target end time, and there are a bunch of initially-great-looking options, but they don't quite all work together. It only has end-time scheduling (as well as "charge right now"), and there's an odd interaction between "departure time" and the low-electricity-rate part of the day. There's no quick way to override the end-time scheduling (as in "I just plugged in, start charging now") without changing charging settings. There are no settings to dial-down the current draw from a L2 charger, and there's no concept of different charging settings based on position. Finally when you plug the car in, it seems to sample the current from the charger (I guess to figure out the charging rate?), which for the longest time had me convinced there was something wrong with the charging algorithm. At least for me, BMW's charging workflow is worse than Tesla's.

    Weirdly, having a BMW and a Tesla in the garage seems to work pretty well...the Tesla charges at the start of off-peak and the BMW charges at the end, so we never have both cars charging at the same time.

    Back to your regularly scheduled 8.0 discussions...

    Bruce.
     
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  12. ecarfan

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    I'm going to assume that is a joke...
     
  13. MP3Mike

    MP3Mike Well-Known Member

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    Did you watch the video?
     
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    I understand what you're saying and agree that route choices would be awesome but what it's doing many times is routing a farther, more time consuming and less energy efficient path.
     
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    I'm hoping it's a joke too. That's why I didn't report it.
     
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  16. BrandonR22

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    Is it just me or is it mind blowing that only ELEVEN people have reported 8.0? Even teslafi has only 3 reports of it.

    Edit: source EV-FW
     
  17. chillaban

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    Has anyone tried geofencing today? I'm contemplating if it's worth it or not to attempt to go to the service center...
     
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  18. Ingineer

    Ingineer Electrical Engineer

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    Didn't work for at least 3 cars.
     
  19. mikeash

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    My car got an update notification this morning at about 7AM while parked at the service center. Whether it happened because it's there or would have happened anyway, I can't say. And I'm not 100% sure that it's 8.0 yet, although I already got the fake-out security update and I don't see what else it could be.
     
  20. BrandonR22

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    I was at SC for 20 minutes about an hour 1/2 ago connected to tesla guest and nothing. At home I'm on wifi with 100down/100up. Took delivery last month
     

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