Firmware 8.1 - Autopilot HW1

[bmah]

Which is the best and safest way to use AP.

Well yeah.

I can't remember why I was hands-off at the time. Once I got the first nag (the first I can remember on that stretch of freeway during rush hour), then it became a phenomenon to be investigated. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

Bruce.

 

[NikeWings]

But today I was in a hour long stop-and-go traffic jam (on a highway), and WOW was AP really amazing in both lane keeping and TACC... it felt almost human. So much better than "driving" through that crap.

Welcome to LA, that's why we love AP so much, even when its not perfect!!!

 

[alexdav]

Welcome to LA, that's why we love AP so much, even when its not perfect!!!

Now if only we could get it to hug left in the carpool lane for lane splitting motorcycles

 

[jerjozwik]

Now if only we could get it to hug left in the carpool lane for lane splitting motorcycles

just this morning i made way for one, forgot i had not disabled AP and as soon as i hit the rumble strips the car went into a panic, TAKE OVER IMMEDIATELY! GOD HELP US!!!! ...silly car.

 

[4SUPER9]

Now if only we could get it to hug left in the carpool lane for lane splitting motorcycles

At the same time, I find that AP hugs the left too much while in the 405 carpool lane, keeping me way too close to the center divider for comfort. Inches really. I have to either exit or disable autosteer. I have yet to try this with 8.1.
I wish we could have a setting for "favor right/favor left", something like the distance setting on TACC.

 

[Kant.Ing]

At the same time, I find that AP hugs the left too much while in the 405 carpool lane, keeping me way too close to the center divider for comfort. Inches really. I have to either exit or disable autosteer. I have yet to try this with 8.1.
I wish we could have a setting for "favor right/favor left", something like the distance setting on TACC.

Last time when my car hugged too right, a motorcyclist splitting lane intentionally kicked my front bumper! It was like 50mph due to traffic.

 

[NikeWings]

I wish we could have a setting for "favor right/favor left", something like the distance setting on TACC.

Oh I'd love to demo that.....and sashay my way down the 405. I don't use AP2 in car pool lanes due to its erratic hunting, but I do use AP1 in car pool lanes except on the fwys that have only inches with the extended concrete pylons jutting out like the E/W 60.

 

[kavyboy]

I wish we could have a setting for "favor right/favor left", something like the distance setting on TACC.

We used to be able to nudge the car left or right by applying a little bit of torque. That would take care of favoring a side. I really miss that, as I find AP a lot less useful now. I hope it come back in another update.

 

[4SUPER9]

Last time when my car hugged too right, a motorcyclist splitting lane intentionally kicked my front bumper! It was like 50mph due to traffic.

That's exactly why I have a dash cam. I have no issue with lane splitting, but I would have reported this guy to the police for felony hit and run (if there was any damage).

 

[Todd Burch]

Count me as someone who sees zero difference in AP1 behavior between 8.0 (2.52.22 I think) and the latest flavor of 8.1.

(But my regen is much weaker--did they tweak that?!?).

 

[NikeWings]

A little torque never moved my car a bit until it eventually disengaged AP. Did I feel like I was winning the fight, yep. But did my car ever, really, technically move before disengagement - nope. Zero difference in AP1 before/after 8.1 updates for me as well.

 

[kgroschi]

I wish we could have a setting for "favor right/favor left", something like the distance setting on TACC.

Nah the car should just automatically be able to 1)identify when it's in the carpool lane 2) identify incoming motorcycles and make some room if there is sufficient space. I think we can expect that much from all that tech.

 

[kgroschi]

Welcome to LA, that's why we love AP so much, even when its not perfect!!!

Yes but I wish it would drive smoother. I drive so much smoother in traffic than the AP1 does and so my gf always asks me to drive in traffic or she will get sick :/ Now I am not sure, should I get rid of the AP or my girl

 

[Evee]

Those early days were wild!

Omg I remember these amazing days omg omg

 

[tga]

I just got back last night from a 700 mile road trip, after upgrading to 17.14.23 from 2.52.22. Most of the driving was with AP. I have to say it's hard to tell a difference. If anything, there seemed to be a little less side to side "hunting" and less frequent nagging than with the prior version.

I left AP on going through a construction zone once and it freaked out as it approached the barrels, forcing me to correct at the last minute. I didn't leave AP on entering construction zones after that.

One complaint I have (both versions) - the car is still too aggressive diving towards exit lanes. If it loses one of the lane markings, I don't see why it can't follow the other one until it picks up the second one again. That's essentially what we do when we are driving ourselves.

 

[NikeWings]

One complaint I have (both versions) - the car is still too aggressive diving towards exit lanes. If it loses one of the lane markings, I don't see why it can't follow the other one until it picks up the second one again. That's essentially what we do when we are driving ourselves.

If I'm in the far right lane, its only because I plan to exit........ This should be the springboard for our long awaited off ramp capability.
If the lane markers are lost in the middle lanes, AP typically operates as you wish.

 

[4SUPER9]

One complaint I have (both versions) - the car is still too aggressive diving towards exit lanes. If it loses one of the lane markings, I don't see why it can't follow the other one until it picks up the second one again. That's essentially what we do when we are driving ourselves.

If I'm in the far right lane, its only because I plan to exit........ This should be the springboard for our long awaited off ramp capability.
If the lane markers are lost in the middle lanes, AP typically operates as you wish.

This really needs to be fixed. I drive the 395 to Mammoth often, always staying in the right lane except to pass. With this type of highway, the "off ramps" are really right hand turn lanes, and each and every time the car seems to launch for that lane like a dog chasing after a squirrel. Now, if it onlyt took planned off-ramps the same way, we'd be in good shape.

 

[tga]

I just got back last night from a 700 mile road trip, after upgrading to 17.14.23 from 2.52.22. Most of the driving was with AP. I have to say it's hard to tell a difference. If anything, there seemed to be a little less side to side "hunting" and less frequent nagging than with the prior version.

I left AP on going through a construction zone once and it freaked out as it approached the barrels, forcing me to correct at the last minute. I didn't leave AP on entering construction zones after that.

One complaint I have (both versions) - the car is still too aggressive diving towards exit lanes. If it loses one of the lane markings, I don't see why it can't follow the other one until it picks up the second one again. That's essentially what we do when we are driving ourselves.

Oh, I forgot to add - that 700 miles was split over a bunch of conditions - day/night, rain/clear. The first night it was raining hard enough that I had a hard time seeing the lane markings, but AP was unfazed.

 

[NikeWings]

This really needs to be fixed. I drive the 395 to Mammoth often, always staying in the right lane except to pass. With this type of highway, the "off ramps" are really right hand turn lanes, and each and every time the car seems to launch for that lane like a dog chasing after a squirrel. Now, if it onlyt took planned off-ramps the same way, we'd be in good shape.

The car should handle an 8 or 10 lane fwy differently than 395.
Very different conditions.

 

[4SUPER9]

The car should handle an 8 or 10 lane fwy differently than 395.
Very different conditions.

Right. That's my point. Very different conditions. If it can't handle a major freeway, then I certainly shouldn't expect to to handle the 395. It is pretty scary to be just driving along and have a sudden rapid pull off the highway.