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Discussion in 'Mountain/Southwest Supercharger locations' started by DHP, Jun 30, 2013.
Summer ends September 21, but from what I have seen, I don't think there is much hope of seeing it operational even by then.
Drove by Silverthorne today and looks like there is finally some activity. Looks like pedestals for 8 stalls and fenced area
Finally! I was starting to give up hope that this would happen. Is there hope that it will finish in 3 weeks, before the end of the summer? :biggrin:
My guess is that fencing is just to keep the riff-raff (like us) out of the construction area. From my post #13 in this thread, here is the context of this picture. The oval shows the area, and the arrow shows the vantage point of the photo.
As was stated before, we will have to organize a Mountain States get together for the opening! :smile:
That's great to see!! I wonder how winter use of the SC will work. Especially snow removal. Hope the plows don't whack the pedestals.
Glenwood Springs CO SC on Marriott Campus
Slightly ahead of Silverthorne CO SC is the new one at Glenwood Springs being built by the same contractor apparently. The transformers & boxen are already in view. Fascias are being installed on the arches. Situated right between the two Marriott buildings there are six SC arches. Beautiful setting and far enough from the entrances to discourage ICE interlopers. Tesla is really getting it right. Just west of the Campus is a mall within walking distance. On south side of I-70 just east of West Glenwood Springs exit, some 80 +/- miles west of Silverthorne CO.
And another view today of Silverthorne CO supercharger:
That is great to finally see some progress! It looks like Glenwood Springs will be done before Silverthorne.
Wonderful News! Take a look at Silverthorne, CO to Marriott Courtyard Glenwood Springs - Google Maps. It looks like it is more like 92 miles between the first two Colorado Superchargers. Still, very nice!
Great location. The Community Center is across the street if you want to get a workout in. The Glenwood Hot Springs Pool is almost 2 miles away; wonder how good the taxi service is for getting in a quick soak! :biggrin:
Now, its a race to see which becomes operational first, Glenwood or Silverthorne!
Not to get the cart before the horse, but with the Silverthorne and Glenwood Supercharger sites started, its time to start to think about connecting the dots between Colorado and that nirvana of Superchargers, California. If you move the Supercharger slider to Winter 2013, then Colorado is connected to Southern California via I-70 and I-15, and to the east via a strange jog north past Mt Rushmore via I-90. We won't even start to question whether "Winter 2013" ends on December 31, 2013 or March 21, 2014...
I spent some time with Google Maps and here is my guess at the I-70 and I-15 stations, starting with the under construction Colorado sites. Distances are east to west, from the previous station in the list, i.e., its 92 miles from Silverthorne, CO to Glenwood Springs, CO.
Silverthorne, CO - Construction spotted.
Glenwood Springs, CO - 92 miles - Construction spotted.
Green River, UT - 186 miles - This is a long stretch, but there is not much in between. Green River at least has a few places to hang out. A long stretch in an MS60, especially uphill to Glenwood.
Cove Fort, UT - 162 miles - Pretty empty country here, but at least this is at the major junction of I-15 and I-70.
St. George, UT - 130 miles - Biggest town for a long way around. Lots of places to put the Supercharger.
Primm, NV - 161 miles - The Tesla map shows this Supercharger on the NV/CA border, and the NV side has the casinos and stuff to do. Seems like a sane distance.
Thoughts? I'm ready to try an electric road trip this winter!
Thanks for the updates and pictures. I am driving from Denver to Las Vegas to Fremont (docking with the mothership) and then San Diego and back in mid-October. My charge in Grand Junction just got briefer. Still reserved KOA time in Utah locations.
a lot of beautiful, empty space in So & central Utah. #s 3-6 on your list are critical to Elon's promised coast to coast family road trip by the end of . . .-wait for it. . .- This Winter! So they have GOT to get done, and soon, which I suppose applies equally to a whole lot of other "empty" places (South Dakota).
I will eventually find myself in most, if not all of the Utah SC locations, but I'll make a special trip (in my crappy ICE car) to check it out if I hear of any real or physical progress. ML
Looks like this location already has solar
the single panel in the distance
You mean the one on top of the speed radar sign? :biggrin:
Can't wait for these to open: Moab, anyone?
Yes, I noticed it was a solar powered speed nag also... :biggrin:
Great idea! Glenwood Supercharger to downtown Moab is 197 miles! Find a good place to charge in Moab and we could do some great fall mountain biking. There are plenty of RV parks in Moab! 2 Mountain bikes fit in the back of MS without taking any wheels off.
Friday I fit two bikes plus two passengers (in addition to me), by putting the removable front wheels in the frunk.
Great location right off I-70! West of Denver, near many ski resorts.
I asked Dan at the Denver service center about Supercharger status and he told me there's still some holdup with Excel permitting for Silverthorne; but it's oh-so-close. He expected there would be some effort on TM's part to reach out to Colorado owners when the openings have been scheduled for the Glenwood and Silverthorne Superchargers.
Dan also mentioned that Tesla just got approval from Utah authorities to site Superchargers in Moab and a second location along I-15, he didn't know where. The cynic in me says, Now comes the hard part: site negotiations and permitting.
Moab . . . Moab . . (salivating)!!
We are being spoiled rotten already with Silverthorne & Glenwood Springs, both being in wonderful settings. Maybe Green River would be the better choice here as it would aid the 'westward flow' along I-70 and Moab visitors can easily backtrack a bit to Green River for charges. Tiny desert town would make a nice half-hour SC stop. Moab itself is tight for space, resources & too much going on already. GR: what Barstow used to be like in the old days.
Well, 'Moab' could mean anywhere between Green River and the town of Moab, I would guess. And my money's on the Supercharger being located close to the Interstate.
First of all, if you look at Supercharger locations on the Tesla Motors Supercharger Page with the slider set at Winter 2013, then the route from Las Vegas to Glenwood Springs is probably the most empty, most remote of the entire Supercharger network. Working north from Vegas, St George, UT is an obvious location and is just where there is a dot on the Supercharger map. North from there, the next obvious location is at the intersection of I-15 and I-70, Fort Cove, UT. This is where it looks like there is another dot on the Tesla map, there are on and off ramps to both I-15 and I-70 here, and its 130 miles from St George, a perfect distance.
Given all of these assumptions, the question is where to put the Supercharger in between Glenwood Springs, CO and Fort Cove, UT. Take a look at Glenwood Springs to Fort Cove - Google Maps. You can change the middle Supercharger location to your choice. Look at the following distance data and elevation data:
Glenwood to Green River - 186 miles
Green River to Fort Cove - 162 miles
Glenwood to Crescent Junction - 166 miles
Crescent Junction to Fort Cove - 182 miles
Glenwood to Moab - 197 miles
Moab to Fort Cove - 213 miles
Green River - 4,200'
Crescent Junction - 5,100'
Fort Cove - 6000'
Moab - 4,000'
Glenwood - 7,000'
Moab is 21 miles off of I-70. That is a long way from the interstate. Also, it makes the distances to and from Fort Cove and Glenwood large enough that I would want a "Range" charge, greatly reducing the utility of the Supercharger. If you use my rule of thumb that 1,000' vertical equals 6 rated miles, then the elevation corrected distance from Moab to Fort Cove is 225 miles!
Elevation corrected, the distance from Green River to Glenwood is 206 miles and from Crescent Junction to Fort Cove is 188 miles. Although Crescent Junction is a pretty lonely location, without much to do, it is the best distance choice, and given that it is the I-70 exit for Moab, maybe Crescent Junction is in reality what the Tesla folks are calling "Moab."
If I were picking the Supercharger site in SE Utah, I would want to minimize the worst-case, elevation-corrected distance; that means Crescent Junction, UT (I-70 and US-191; I-70, exit 182) is the place!
As SteveZZZ said, when Silverthorne and Glenwood are done, its time for a road trip to Moab to do some fall mountain biking. There are plenty of RV parks in Moab to do a range charge for the drive back to Glenwood. Maybe on that trip, we can get some actual pictures!