Some are a bit faster than others. In general they seem to have lost power from the inception. My max is 545 now, it used to be 565-575. I’ve driven one that had 583 max kW out put. My car does have 58k, but since about 35k the power out put has been around 545. Weather definitely effects performance, but that’s almost all cars.
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First Quarter Mile times on 2019.36.1
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and when the plaid is out... i'm very happy with my Raven but I should have waited for a cpo Raven!
Ostrichsak
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You'd be waiting a while as Tesla no longer sells CPO cars. Just used Tesla cars now. Using the term CPO could be confusing since they did sell CPO cars via a CPO program at one point up until recently when they did away with it.
Are there any differences in the warranty (or other perks) between the 'used' cars in Tesla's present day inventory compared to the 'used' cars sold by Tesla when they were still referring to used cars as 'CPO' ? All the Model S or X with less than 50k miles currently in used inventory come with a 4 year 50k mile warranty. Was it even better in the past ?
Oh wow, that's interesting to know. I'll have to check to see what the max is on my car which has about 20,000 miles. I've had the car 3 weeks and yesterday was the first time I put the car in Lud+ mode and properly warmed up the battery.
Ostrichsak
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That aspect remained largely unchanged. The primary difference was the cosmetic/physical condition of the vehicles that were being sold. Tesla's CPO program was on par with Lexus, Mercedes, etc. where a certain level of refurbishment could be expected. If someone is shopping used Tesla cars from Tesla now and are thinking what they're looking at (largely stock) photos of is on that level they will be greatly disappointed when they finally take delivery. It's important that shoppers new to this version of Tesla used cars not be mislead into thinking they're buying anything other than a used car with an extended Tesla warranty which is what they are. People who continue to incorrectly refer to them as CPO are only adding more confusion to an already confusing used car purchase experience.
It looks like on the ludicrous ravens the power increase was to the rear motor. The max used to be 360kw, and now it's 375kw.
In this video from July, the front and rear power peak simultaneously at 177.5kw and 360kw at 82 mph(at 2:20 minutes). The peak battery power is 578.9kw. The run in the video was at 99% soc vs the 87% in this thread, which probably accounts for the slightly lower battery power. They are probably able to get the same power out of the front motor using less battery power on recent firmware. This lets them send more power to the rear motor for the same total battery power.
More power to the front motor might not help at low speed as the front wheel traction is reduced as the weight shifts to the rear wheels during hard acceleration.
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This video is from July. My comments refer to changes in 36.2.1. What I said is directly confirmed by the release notes.
That's my point. Back in July before 2019.36.x The max power to the rear motor was 360kw. Now the max power is 375kw. In the second pull of the video without launch mode, the front motor power went to 181kw. So regardless what the release notes say, it was the power to the rear motor that was increased, not the front motor. The recent owner's manual does list the front motor power as 205kw where it was previously listed as 193kw, but the car is still only reporting a maximum of 181kw.
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In my current owners manual it says 193 kW front and 375 kW rear. However, the car is registered in Norway with max power: 205 kW front and 380 kW rear (see attached screenshot). I guess Tesla must provide the actual max values to the Norwegian authorities.
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Peak power figures do not tell you how much torque there is or how much it has changed below and above peak.
If it's the same at the peak, you can't have more power. It's possible they flattened the hp curve, but that doesn't mean you have more power which is what they claimed. The model s hp curve isn't very peaky. Musk said there would be 50 more hp, but it's only 18.5 kw more which is 25hp. That's about 3%.
Yeah, but they are still only using 181kw for the front motor and 375kw for the rear. They are probably up against the battery hp limit.
If it's the same at the peak, you can't have more power. It's possible they flattened the hp curve, but that doesn't mean you have more power which is what they claimed. The model s hp curve isn't very peaky. Musk said there would be 50 more hp, but it's only 18.5 kw more which is 25hp. That's about 3%.
I don't think 36.x is the fw where we get the claimed +50hp.
It was supposed to come with 2019.36.1, and the power did increase by 25 hp.
This was another Musk soon time frame, so I guess there could be more power to come.
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I was like hmm I recognize those mountains...mason dixon! I live about 15 miles from there.
Taking delivery of my 2020 MS LR on 12/6. Can’t wait!
Nice video!
Taking delivery of my 2020 MS LR on 12/6. Can’t wait!
Nice video!
The guy in the video has been posting cool Tesla videos for years. He did a lot for Tesla before most people were aware of the performance by showing Tesla’s top variant embarrassing some of the quickest gas cars.
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