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First thoughts on my Model 3 vs. my Model S

Discussion in 'Model 3' started by RBowen, Feb 2, 2018.

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  1. ℬête Noire

    ℬête Noire Active Member

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    Is that left spinner configurable, though?

    Is the right spinner function configurable or is it "hardwired" to steering wheel adjustments?
     
  2. dhanson865

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    Have you tried the 2 finger method? Push in with index and middle finger and let them slip behind the handle and pull from the same side you pushed.

    I haven't done it but I saw it in a video and that person said it was easier than any other method they had tried.
     
  3. Kbra

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    They are only steering wheel and side mirror adjust knobs when in those profile configuration settings. Otherwise they don't adjust your profile settings full time. If that made any sense.
     
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  4. thedoctorraz66

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    Well at least you got your 3 , here in Canada , who knows when I might get a sniff of getting close to building mine!
     
  5. ℬête Noire

    ℬête Noire Active Member

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    Yes, it does.

    So it's potential that they intend, with future software updates, to extend that design such that when using TACC they'll be active alternative controls for that?
     
  6. ℬête Noire

    ℬête Noire Active Member

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    What's your Tesla.com Reservation page say? Canadian orders generally got a serious bump up last week.
     
  7. Andrew

    Andrew Model S #6151, Model 3 #1576

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    #67 Andrew, Feb 14, 2018
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    I sure hope so. Adjusting the TACC speed on the touchscreen is cumbersome and difficult (hitting the little plus and minus targets on either side of the speed setting is challenging while driving on bumpy LA freeways), and setting the follow distance is even worse, since it's buried in a second-level settings menu.

    I hope in the future the right knob will be used to adjust speed (up/down) and follow distance (left/right). That will be a massive improvement!

    Sidenote: I'd also like to see a much bolder indication on the screen that TACC or Auto-steer is enabled. Since it's not directly in front on the binnacle, it's harder to tell when it's engaged and when it's not. I think the entire left side of the display background should change from white to blue, so you can tell instantly in your peripheral vision if it's engaged or not.

    (Update: I just submitted all of the above in the "Ask a question" tool on my vehicle profile page, and checked the box to report to the executive team. Hope they're listening!)
     
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    My account page says nothing !
     
  9. ThosEM

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    #69 ThosEM, Feb 25, 2018
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    I concur with essentially all your observations apart from a couple that seem to have been unique to your delivery site.

    On your request list, I strongly support the request for steering wheel speed adjustment. I'm getting more accustomed to poking the screen and while that may be adequate for highway travel, on any other road it would be much safer to put things that control the motion of the car on the steering wheel.
     
  10. SSonnentag

    SSonnentag Rocket Scientist

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    Great review. I like your lane departure warning idea. I have mine turned off in my S for the same reason you switched yours off. It's too annoying on twisty roads.
     
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  11. Electroman

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    Having the AP speed adjustment on the screen is plain dump, stupid. The steering wheel adjustment and the AP controls should be swapped.
     
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    #72 mobe, Feb 28, 2018
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    Yes
    You have two options. One; wide unswept area on the left with hidden arm or, two; full sweep with arm visible when not in use.
     
  13. Flekoun

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    Yes, I am shocked how slow is Tesla at fixing this via update. It is such obvious stupid error on their side, every single owner, review is pointing this out. They have solution right under their nose and they do nothing. More and more negative reviews are plaguing internet because of this and Tesla seems they do not care. What a shame. They could fix this Day 1 with over the air update, yet half year will pass soon and no change. Its such pain to see this for me.
     
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  14. ℬête Noire

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    #74 ℬête Noire, Feb 28, 2018
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    A reminder from the Department of Software is Hard; The programmers not yet completing and shipping the implementation of a given item on the planned feature list doesn't constitute an "error" and probably isn't even "stupid". This isn't your dad's car. For better and worse, Tesla's normal course of business enhance their cars with added features post-delivery.
     
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  15. Electroman

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    Me thinks, Tesla team doesn't think this is an issue. A fix will come only if they believe this is a problem. Rather this would not have been designed if they didn't believe that is the right thing to do. I don't believe this was an oversight, but a deliberate decision to move all controls to the screen.
     
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    Very detailed review. Thank you.

    This may have been mentioned here already, however the rear-wheel drive Model S does not have the whining noise that you hear from dual-motor options. This is based on all the D loaners I have driven which have this noticeable whine. The front motor is the obvious culprit, which like the non-D Model S, the non-all-wheel drive of the 3 is free of this noise.
     
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    It's not a matter of "swapping". Steering wheel and mirror adjustments are modal things and take over both steering wheel controls.
     
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  18. Flekoun

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    Well I do not agree with this. These two scroll wheels on the stearing wheel are basicaly not used. The right one does nothing at all except changing the position of the stearing wheel. The software is definately not finished at all. Those should be multifunctional, changing their function based on what is happening in a car
     
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  19. RBowen

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    Just received OTA update 2018.12 for my model 3, and the steering wheel knobs are now functional for adjusting mirrors and adaptive cruise control. A good improvement.
     
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    Very interesting and can't wait for mine.

    However, the mirrors were already adjusted via the thumbwheels, albeit in a special mode. How does it work with the update? What happened to sound volume control?

    Also please describe how does the ACC work? One click per mph or ? Any function for sideways clicks?
     

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