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Fisker Karma

Discussion in 'Electric Vehicles' started by vfx, Oct 15, 2007.

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  1. jcstp

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    They're just a fail in general...

    Why would another automaker buy them? Got the funds to make a half-arsed attempt at a green car from random components and will now need to exit because of soft demand.
     
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    Just glad the election is over.
     
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    The mods will probably move this because it's veering off-topic, but some veterans here probably have some good insight so I'll ask.

    Hypothetical:
    If Fisker's focus was on pure EV (rather than Hybrid, or "EREV" as they like to call it to sound high end) and he had some juice left to spend, would Elon "look past the past" and help them out in the name of his general EV mission? It would be an impressive show of character.
     
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    I doubt it. The best thing Elon can do for EV adoption is to focus on Tesla. Get gen 3 out there as soon as possible.
     
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    I don't get the impression that Elon is that into "shows of character". Just see his past comments on the Karma. He's pretty outspoken on the things he feels strongly about. Just my opinion.

    The whole irony in the Fisker story is that the car is not bad looking and would be impressive if it worked better. Put a V8 in the thing and I'll bet it would sell like crazy. But (I still believe this) Henrik had to make it at least partly electric in order to get his hands on some cheap government money. Starting a car company is fantastically expensive, and he needed that money to get Fisker over the hump. He simply wasn't wealthy enough; Venture capital was only going to take him so far, and he had no strategic partner(s). As evidence that I'm right, just look at what's happened since the government loan was frozen.
     
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    I meant more the end of Aptera. Maybe I should use DeLorean instead.
     
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    Help them out?

    You mean like Mercedes and Toyota?

    Fisker and it's backers come to Tesla hat in hand and ask for Tesla's powertrain for their next model and Tesla says yes. It is aprt of Tesla's mission to make all cars electric.

    As for the parnership, I see it as a win-win. Fisker sells over the top looking cars and they have the best drivetrain on the market, and Tesla looks mature and makes money selling powertrains.
     
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    I don't think it was just about government money. I think they needed the angle to interest investors, period. "Just another pretty car" isn't a big enough hook. "Green cars for the wealthy" sounds like it might attract funding.
     
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    Probably a bit of that too.
     
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    As trying year wraps up, Fisker searches for lifeline Cleantech News and Analysis

     
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    #1872 Quacker, Dec 11, 2012
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    The fisker karma was just featured on a jay leno episode, here it is:


    2012 Fisker Karma - Jay Lenos Garage - YouTube

    Toward the end fisker said a few hundred have been sold so far, and that it had only been out for a few months. I thought deliveries started in July of last year?
     
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    This is an old video posted several months ago
     
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    I wonder why it was reposted then.
     
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    "I am not a fan of a pure electric car, because to me it is the range anxiety thing.." - Leno (14:00)
     
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    They used to all be on their own website, but I think recently started also posting to youtube. I think now they've started posting old episodes to youtube as well. That Karma episode was originally posted mid January 2012.
    Jay Leno's Garage - 2012 Fisker Karma | Fisker

    It's interesting to see this episode again in retrospect. This was when regular customers were just getting their cars and before all the bad press about the bugs, fires, and poor UI.
     
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    Fisker won't restart production until A123 sale clears - Automotive News

     
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    That is not good news for them. I wonder about the 300 cars they lost in the hurricane too (were those going dealers to sit on a lot or owners?).
     
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    That sums up their problems right there. There innovation was ... I have a really cool looking car. That's it.
     
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