dmurphy
Woof.
Well, thank you! I've been called many things in my life, usually 4-letter words followed by "head" ... but it's nice to try something new on for size...
For AWD owners wanting a P3D-
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Well, thank you! I've been called many things in my life, usually 4-letter words followed by "head" ... but it's nice to try something new on for size...
A Tesla dealer has quoted me $55,990 for a stealth performance model (their words), which apparently also has the FSD upgrade. Purchase price with all of the options they listed would be $62,990. In essence, for $7,000 more than the price a long-range model, I can get the Performance improve (less the aesthetics, which I don't care about), the wheels I prefer (so as not to lose range), and FSD. It seems like a no-brainer. Are there any downsides I'm missing?
dmurphy
Woof.
Hmm - what color interior and exterior? I will agree - that sounds like a good price for that vehicle.
If I configure "my" car, it's $53,990 right now. When I bought it back in April, it was $56,000, but I got the full $3750 tax credit, so it nets out to a $135 difference. If you can get a Performance model for that price, it's a good deal.
That said - the LR AWD is all I want or need... I genuinely don't pine for the Performance model.
jebinc
M3 LR AWD w/FSD and white premium interior
If you are not interested in the PUP items then the Stealth is a no brainer for me. I would get it. You can upgrade everything to PUP levels anyways if you want later, but as we've seen its unlikely Tesla will ever uncork the AWD versions if it is even possible.
Knightshade
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If you mean the recent ones- you had to specifically ask for one.
Many of those who did got a regular AWD at delivery- and then got a software push (either on site, or over the air a day or two later) to add the Performance software unlock.
FWIW the P comes with the 980 rear drive unit.
As did all non-P cars made in 2018... (and some in the US the first few months of 2019)
it's only in the last few months most non-P AWDs were coming with any different HW in them (the 990 rear drive unit) than the P3D- always came with.
If you mean the P3D- sold last year in the US- it was orderable as normal in the configurator- when you ordered a P it asked if you wanted the $5000 performance upgrade package or not- and you got whichever config you ordered.
(note even then some folks got a regular AWD at delivery and had to have the software updated to be a P)
They said they have black, midnight silver, blue, or white. They all have black interiors. I prefer the white interior, but I think I'll be glad to give that up in this case.
dmurphy
Woof.
Well, the white paint is now the "freebie" color - so if you like it, that's always a solid choice... but I'm a little (ok, a lot) biased!
For the interior, again, black is the "freebie" color... so for the lowest dollar cost, white exterior, black interior is a perfect combo.
Ticobird
Lovin the Tesla Life
Is this a new vehicle price and not preowned? By the way Tesla does not have Dealers in the conventional sense. Tesla has Service Centers and Stores and Galleries.
How is it configured, e.g., As of 9-3-2019 Paint color ($1,000 - $2,000 extra possible), Interior Color (White adds $1,000), FSD (adds $6,000).
I just went online and configured my Model 3 Performance, Blue, White Interior, FSD and the price is listed as $63,990 CASH in the lower left corner of the screen. That is only $1,000 more for a true Model 3 Performance. You should go with what you want for the reasons that are most relevant to you. Personally, I get a little uneasy feeling when I find myself making a decision to become a part of a niche group like the M3P- group but again if you are fine with it then go with it.
As far as range goes, I do not know what your daily range requirements are but my M3P indicates 235 rated miles at an 80% SOC driving in the manner I drive it. As far as tires go, you could order a more conventional tire. Tirerack.com indicates a less expensive Michelin Pilot Sport A/S (W or Y Speed Rated) Size 235/35ZR20 that saves $88/tire. Since I do not track or plan to track my M3P this is the tire I will go with when it comes time to replace the OEM Michelin Pilot Sports.
It's new... or at least under 50 miles. Maybe some test drives. And yes, I know they're not dealers in the traditional sense. They deal in Teslas, though, so... :0)
Sorry, I probably didn't state it very clearly in my original post - my spec'd out performance model would be $62,990, whereas the stealth performance model with FSD is $55,990, so a $7,000 savings for a black interior vs. white, more range due to the aero wheels, and only giving up the spoiler, bigger brakes, etc. I think I'm going to pull the trigger!
A bit off topic, maybe, but what do you all think of Elon's claim that Tesla owners will be able to add their car to an automated ride-share network within the next few years? This strikes me as a bit far-fetched, but I'm curious about others' take on it.
I got offer for a black/black stealth performance for $49,900, and $6,000 for the FSD. Silver, blue are $1,000 more.
That's the regular price.
That's the regular price.
Oh I see, computer simulations are worthless and we should defer to your determination that the spoiler does nothing because... you pulled it out of your assh tray.
Ticobird
Lovin the Tesla Life
I say pull the trigger! If it really has the same acceleration performance as a M3P and that is all you want you will probably not miss the other pieces. On the other hand if you are looking for an all around well thought out performance vehicle that steers, brakes and accelerates like the designers intended then you might want to give it another thought.
I take Elon at his word that this will be possible. Am I going to participate - No. I like my M3P too much to let it do yeoman's duty as a taxi. I think it is just a matter of time. I also have a niggling thought in the back of my mind that FSD (even though I bought it) may take an iteration beyond HW3 in order to come to fruition. I would note the Tesla is being very smart not to identify FSD with the SAE ANSI definition of Autonomously driven vehicles. SAE Levels of Driving Automation - ANSI Blog I believe Tesla FSD will in its full implementation fully comply with Autonomous Level 3. I think this position will allow Tesla to hedge their claim that FSD will always need driver supervision, which if it happens would open the door for future fully Level 4 and Level 5 compliant autonomous vehicles.
People take themselves so seriously. Jeebus.
Confused by your math. The Stealth is $5k(+tax) less than the Performance with the Performance Upgrades Package (PUP) with any configuration, not $1k.. Most of us don't want the larger wheels since they zap range, add noise and reduce comfort.
Sounds like there are some folks getting quotes for alternate colors but still at the $49,990 (pre-FSD) price -- so potentially even more discount.
We got our P3D- several weeks ago and are THRILLED with it. Truly hits the sweet spot for performance and comfort.
Confused by your math. The Stealth is $5k(+tax) less than the Performance with the Performance Upgrades Package (PUP) with any configuration, not $1k.. Most of us don't want the larger wheels since they zap range, add noise and reduce comfort.
Sounds like there are some folks getting quotes for alternate colors but still at the $49,990 (pre-FSD) price -- so potentially even more discount.
We got our P3D- several weeks ago and are THRILLED with it. Truly hits the sweet spot for performance and comfort.
sperkin
Member
I have not seen this posted before, but you are correct. Tesla will ask you not to drive the car for the day while they push Performance to your car over the air. However it’s the same firmware, but with performance UI.
jebinc
M3 LR AWD w/FSD and white premium interior
I wonder if Tesla would sell you a used LR AWD, as a Performance via the push, then - if it were that easy. More likely, the could sell a Stealth as a LR AWD, via downgrade, across the board; but not the case with upgrading LR AWD's - only "certain ones", it seems.
Swampgator
Active Member
StealthP3D
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If Tesla were to do that they would convert it to Performance before they sold it. And that would be an excellent way to make more profit on trade-in cars. Of course, they would only do it to cars that had tested to Performance standards before they originally sold them as AWD.
ModelNforNerd
Active Member
There's no "performance UI". It adds the Track Mode button. That's the only user facing difference on the UI.
Source: my car.
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