AlanSubie4Life
Efficiency Obsessed Member
The question is whether people have fewer (and less severe) accidents when they are using FSD Beta. It’s possible they do (when measured fairly and accurately). In the end I would think that’s what matters. And of course that must continue to apply to a wider release!Autopilot and Full Self-Driving Capability | Tesla Support
Autopilot is an advanced driver assistance system that enhances safety and convenience behind the wheel. When used properly, Autopilot reduces your overall workload as a driver. Learn more about Autopilot.www.tesla.com
Active safety features come standard on all Tesla vehicles made after September 2014 for elevated protection at all times. These features are made possible by our Autopilot hardware and software system and include:
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- Automatic Emergency Braking: Detects cars or obstacles that the car may impact and applies the brakes accordingly
Let's be honest with ourselves here.
How can Tesla unleash this Beta into the hands of 100K drivers who are lead to believe their car can "navigate city streets" when we are also supposed to believe that "Tesla is not saying that FSD will avoid objects in the road".
The larger problem isn't the current state of FSD, but the gap between Musk/Tesla years of bold statements & the current state as it's rolled out to more "testers".
We are supposed to believe its both the most advanced autonomous car and also that it can't be expected to, in the general case, brake/slow/stop/steer around stationary or moving objects of any kind (humans/animals/crash dummies/vehicles/bollards/trains).
Drivers are going to give the car a little too much leash & benefit of the doubt, expecting it to be much more capable than it is.
This is malpractice, especially in light of public statements of wanting 1M beta testers by end of year.
Post all the anecdotes of "it avoided an obstacle on this one specific build of FSD in this one specific test this one time" but this is not how you would grade a human driver. A human driver that handles only 99 out of 100 objects in the road will get kicked off their insurance every year with all the accident claims they'd be making.
No one knows what the actual situation is or why. There is no data. Of course, accident rates going down when using FSD Beta may not be due to FSD Beta directly, so it all has to be untangled.
There is reason to think the accident rate could go up, and there is reason to think it could go down.