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I doubt you will notice much difference. If you compared Pinnacle to photo sync then you might feel it, but the difference between Pinnacle and stratos does not appear to be very much. I believe Stratos is a thicker film than Pinnacle. Prices I was quoted for rear and side windows combined with ratings I looked up online (However the LLUMAR guys say Stratos still blocks more heat than Crystaline?):I went with formula one pinnacle -70/30 including 30 on the sun roof.
They didn’t have the stratos in wide sheets to do the back window single piece. Said stratos and pinnacle look identical and offered to mix, but I just went pinnacle.
Roof is a bit dark, but not bad.
Edit - this was our 3. Out stratos on the S. Have not had the 3 in summer heat to compare yet.
I went with formula one pinnacle -70/30 including 30 on the sun roof.
They didn’t have the stratos in wide sheets to do the back window single piece. Said stratos and pinnacle look identical and offered to mix, but I just went pinnacle.
Roof is a bit dark, but not bad.
Edit - this was our 3. Out stratos on the S. Have not had the 3 in summer heat to compare yet.
I doubt you will notice much difference. If you compared Pinnacle to photo sync then you might feel it, but the difference between Pinnacle and stratos does not appear to be very much. I believe Stratos is a thicker film than Pinnacle. Prices I was quoted for rear and side windows combined with ratings I looked up online (However the LLUMAR guys say Stratos still blocks more heat than Crystaline?):
Tint 35% VLT = 32 (29% after darkening) | TSER = 79 … TSER = Spectra Photosync SPH35 ($1100)
Tint 40% VLT = 39 | TSER = 60 … 3M Crystalline 40 ($650 - two piece rear)
Tint 30% VLT = 33 | TSER = 56 … Formula One Pinnacle 30 ($700)
Tint 35% VLT = 38 | TSER = 55 ... Formula One Pinnacle 35 ($700
Tint 30% VLT = 32 | TSER = 59 ... Formula One Stratos 30 ($900)
Tint 35% VLT = 39 | TSER = 58 ... Formula One Stratos 35 ($900)
Tint 35% VLT = 34 | TSER = 43 … Solar Guard Ultra Performace 30 ($550 ish)
http://cdn.llumar.com/drupal/formulaoneautomotivespecifications2018september.pdf
Spectra PhotoSync® | Prestige
https://multimedia.3m.com/mws/media/662303O/3mtm-crystalline-automotive-window-films-brochure.pdf
These specs are the reason I ended up with photosync. I was going to just do Pinnacle because it was hard to justify the price difference between Pinnacle and Stratos, except that the shop didn't do Pinnacle on one piece or they didn't have the darkness I was looking at (I can't remember which). Price difference was about $200 which I was going to pay to get what I wanted. Then to step up to Photosync it was like another $200 where the price difference was more warranted due to the 21% jump in heat rejection performance. Hmm maybe this will be more noticeable. Just looking at the numbers, it seemss Pinnacle should be just fine, unless they can't do the once piece rear. Stratos is a little better, but probably not worth $200 difference from performance alone. Photosync changes color a bit when left in
the sun (the reason for the second number).
Hope this helps!
The stratos was described to me as basically the pinnacle plus air 90 for IR heat blocking.
I'm considering getting F1 Pinnacle for my M3, probably 30% for rear sides and rear roof and 70% for front sides. A couple questions for those of you who have a similar setup:
1) Since the roof is already tinted pretty dark, will extra tint make a noticeable difference in heat rejection? Also, would 30% make it "too dark" (I know it's kind of subjective, but I welcome the comments)
2) Would you recommend also tinting the front roof window? Or maybe just get the Tesla shade and use it for the summer/hot months?
The 35% looks great and I also like the 70% for the front. This is making me want to pay a little more to get the Stratos instead of Pinnacle since the Pinnacle's lightest is 50% which I'm a bit concerned about using on my front side windows as it will be more obvious for the cops to see here in California. Still not sure if I want to tint the front roof window or just get the removable shade so it's only up during the really hot times of the year.View attachment 395806 View attachment 395805
Here are the pictures of mine. Hope it helps. It looks a bit lighter when seeing it in-person than the picture.
I was quoted $549 for Pinnacle for all 4 side windows and the rear/roof window (no tint for front roof). $749 for Stratos and the same windows.That 35% looks great. Approx how much are you guys paying for the tint?
Thanks. Looks fantastic @skylander. It gave me a good reference point. I was set on Stratos 40 for all sides and rear, but the local installer don't stock the 40s large enough to accommodate the rear in 1-piece. I may settle for the 35 instead.@skylander Pics please!
Thanks. Looks fantastic @skylander. It gave me a good reference point. I was set on Stratos 40 for all sides and rear, but the local installer don't stock the 40s large enough to accommodate the rear in 1-piece. I may settle for the 35 instead.
There isn't a huge difference in VLT between 35 and 40 (39% vs. 42%).
I based my decision of the darkness of the rear window on the lighter bottom part. Increasing the darkness of the top part was just secondary. I’m deciding between 25 and 30 Pinnacle for my rear.Thanks guys for the feedback. In the past most of cars had a 35%. For this car I am thinking the pinnacle 40, but doing like a pinnacle 50 on the rear window. Since the top of the rear window is already tinted I didn't want to loose a lot of the light in the rear. What do you guys think?
If you're already committed to Stratos on the sides, why pick the Pinnacle 50 over the Stratos 50 for the rear? They have nearly the same VLT rating (55% vs. 56% respectively).Thanks guys for the feedback. In the past most of cars had a 35%. For this car I am thinking the pinnacle 40, but doing like a pinnacle 50 on the rear window. Since the top of the rear window is already tinted I didn't want to loose a lot of the light in the rear. What do you guys think?
The 35% looks great and I also like the 70% for the front. This is making me want to pay a little more to get the Stratos instead of Pinnacle since the Pinnacle's lightest is 50% which I'm a bit concerned about using on my front side windows as it will be more obvious for the cops to see here in California. Still not sure if I want to tint the front roof window or just get the removable shade so it's only up during the really hot times of the year.
I was quoted $549 for Pinnacle for all 4 side windows and the rear/roof window (no tint for front roof). $749 for Stratos and the same windows.