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FYI, just filed a complaint with NHTSA in regards to subframe failure, hopefully we can enough of these reports made to have this issue resolved, thanks for the advice.
I have a late 2012 P85 with 65k miles and have had almost the exact same repair and customer service experience except even worse. They have had my car for 2 weeks and want $2800 to replace the rear sub frame assembly. My wife was driving the vehicle at 3 mph making a uturn! Unacceptable. I am trying to take it up the ladder but have had no luck. I will be selling this car and telling every know not to buy a Tesla if they won’t stand behind their engineering flaws!
No but I will tomorrow after reading this thread. Thanks!
Ssvladi
Member
Got the same issue on December 27
2014 p85. Service center blame me for harsh acceleration and potholes....
$3300 quote. Tried to argue, seems like it’s useless, like barking on the wall.
Filing with Nhtsa right now
2014 p85. Service center blame me for harsh acceleration and potholes....
$3300 quote. Tried to argue, seems like it’s useless, like barking on the wall.
Filing with Nhtsa right now
Naekuh
Member
Seeing how i have a P edition, should i be more scared due to the increased torque demands of owning a P.
Is this easy to inspect?
(Meaning most P owners having possession of a lead foot.)
Can i ask them to visually double inspect it without requiring them to pull out too much stuff on my 2nd year maintenance.
Is this easy to inspect?
(Meaning most P owners having possession of a lead foot.)
Can i ask them to visually double inspect it without requiring them to pull out too much stuff on my 2nd year maintenance.
Didn't realize this had become a common thing...mine was $3500
DU was replaced within a month of subframe failure ..which some gear lash in reverse is what caused the failure IMO
gently backing up from a slow forward roll popped it.
About i week later I managed to strip the DU gears for a replacement DU. definitely related but this was not warranty covered because it is not part of the DU
DU was replaced within a month of subframe failure ..which some gear lash in reverse is what caused the failure IMO
gently backing up from a slow forward roll popped it.
About i week later I managed to strip the DU gears for a replacement DU. definitely related but this was not warranty covered because it is not part of the DU
Electric700
Active Member
May be they should do two things:
1. Allow switching to reverse only when the speed is zero and the car is in D/N (or vice versa)
2. Make those connection joints thicker
You may want to communicate this directly to the Tesla service center and through the app.
1. Allow switching to reverse only when the speed is zero and the car is in D/N (or vice versa)
2. Make those connection joints thicker
You may want to communicate this directly to the Tesla service center and through the app.
Ssvladi
Member
rickyjb
Member
Had the same happen 2014 ms P85 56k miles.
Response from tesla after i asked what would cause this
"We have taken the liberty to escalate this concern with our Service Manager and the engineers for Europe. On investigation, we are able to advised there has been no manufacturing defect to cause this issue and the cause is due to torsional motion."
dropped car off 25th july picked up on 13th aug
Subframe replacement
o Parts: £1465.00 GBP(incl VAT)
o Labor: £1252.00 GBP (incl VAT and wheel alignment
Response from tesla after i asked what would cause this
"We have taken the liberty to escalate this concern with our Service Manager and the engineers for Europe. On investigation, we are able to advised there has been no manufacturing defect to cause this issue and the cause is due to torsional motion."
dropped car off 25th july picked up on 13th aug
Subframe replacement
o Parts: £1465.00 GBP(incl VAT)
o Labor: £1252.00 GBP (incl VAT and wheel alignment
I would be pretty surprised if they could get out of it if you’re under the bumper to bumper warranty. Power train warranty almost certainly won’t cover it though.
geoffmanley
Member
You guys are making me nervous. My 2013 P85+ has about 62k miles. I have a lead foot. Hopefully if it breaks the extended warranty will cover it. Did anyone answer the question of whether it's viewable without ripping everything apart?
rickyjb
Member
Not sure if its viewable after removing the aero covers under the car. Extended warranty should cover it . I was more concerned with if it had damaged the drive unit in any way .
the first time I noticed it was at low speeds under 15 mph , transitioning from acceleration to regen and the other way too. there would be a audible clunk/knock and could feel it like a dull this in the rear . I was able to repeat it on demand , so I took a technician at the sc for a spin , he identified it straight away broken mount with drive unit hitting frame.
Ssvladi
Member
I have exactly the same symptoms. At first i thought it is drive unit, cause one of my previous units made similar noises before it was replaced. But unfortunately it is subframe mount. 78k miles on the clock.
I thought i have a case of their fault cause i had 2 drive units replaced during 2019. That means frame was unscrewed and tighten up two extra times... but no luck.
i guess i have to man up and pick up this bill
Either that or take your care to someone that can just weld new mounts on to the sub-frame. Should be a lot cheaper. (Well, I guess ~50% of the cost is labor, and you a lot of shops won't want to mess with dropping the motor and all, but it isn't that big of a deal.)
Still sounds like Tesla improperly engineered the part. It's not fit for this particular purpose and it's failing prematurely for what a consumer reasonably expects from a performance luxury sedan.
Ssvladi
Member
Thought about it, they said they might void DU warranty if i go that direction
