Fred Lambert - You have gone too far!

[Garlan Garner]

This is what Fred Lambert is mostly interested nowadays: Fred Lambert. Too much drinking his own Kool aid. There´s a reason Elon Musk gets interviewed by MKBHD instead
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That's funny. Elon gets interviewed by TONS of people.

Hey...I was just checking the stock price.....

Ahem......

 

[Doggydogworld]

Who is a reliable source of Facts in your opinion?

Is Tesla a reliable source of Facts?

Is Elon a reliable source of Facts?

...just wondering.....

I consider SEC filings reliable. I believe the numbers in the earnings letter and P&D report, but I assume the text presents things in the best possible light. I don't consider Elon's blue-sky extemporaneous statements to be reliable - he's proven to generate a strong reality distortion field.

 

[Garlan Garner]

I consider SEC filings reliable. I believe the numbers in the earnings letter and P&D report, but I assume the text presents things in the best possible light. I don't consider Elon's blue-sky extemporaneous statements to be reliable - he's proven to generate a strong reality distortion field.

Where does the SEC get its data from ?

Does Elon provide the SEC with their data?

Do they make it up?

 

[R.S]

Where does the SEC get its data from ?

Does Elon provide the SEC with their data?

Do they make it up?

What?

A SEC filing is a financial document required to be submitted to the SEC by public companies, like Tesla. So Tesla supplies them and can get in big trouble, if it they aren't accurate.

Here is an example: https://ir.tesla.com/static-files/6c1d8708-1f9e-4cf9-b31a-a7c106d03a2c

 

[jcasetnl]

What?

A SEC filing is a financial document required to be submitted to the SEC by public companies, like Tesla. So Tesla supplies them and can get in big trouble, if it they aren't accurate.

Here is an example: https://ir.tesla.com/static-files/6c1d8708-1f9e-4cf9-b31a-a7c106d03a2c

Pretty sure joking/trolling.

 

[LN1_Casey]

Pretty sure joking/trolling.

Definitely a troll account. Every post I've seen the troll post was exceedingly negative, and/or provoking, and/or inciting, meant to provoke FUD.

 

[StealthP3D]

Definitely a troll account. Every post I've seen the troll post was exceedingly negative, and/or provoking, and/or inciting, meant to provoke FUD.

It seems like TMC should do a better job of filtering out the troll accounts.

The noise/interest ratio has become unwelcoming (to the point that I don't even like coming here very often anymore).

 

[Garlan Garner]

What?

A SEC filing is a financial document required to be submitted to the SEC by public companies, like Tesla. So Tesla supplies them and can get in big trouble, if it they aren't accurate.

Here is an example: https://ir.tesla.com/static-files/6c1d8708-1f9e-4cf9-b31a-a7c106d03a2c

So...Tesla is accurate?

Elon is accurate?

 

[Garlan Garner]

It seems like TMC should do a better job of filtering out the troll accounts.

The noise/interest ratio has become unwelcoming (to the point that I don't even like coming here very often anymore).

You don't like coming here anymore?

 

[TMThree]

this is what the media does... sports, politics, tech, etc. They build up a hero, then they tear them down.
Nothing new.

Media? That's being generous. It's some random guy's blog.

 

[StealthP3D]

You don't like coming here anymore?

All the noise and negative fake accounts definitely take some of the fun out of it.

 

[CarlK]

The biggest complaint I have about Electrek is that they never seem to include source links. All of their article links are Electrek article/topic tags. It's infuriating to then have to try to Google to figure out where they got their info in order to independently evaluate it.

Same concept if they have a 'leaked' Tesla email--they'll selectively quote it but not post the full text.

Another problem is his "takes" seem to be random thoughts not even follow the main (unverified) story. A lot times I have no idea how he drew those conclusions.

 

[CarlK]

Most people who go to Electrek are Tesla fans looking for good infomation. They are not looking for fake news, half truth or negative criticism of Tesla. There are plenty of them, and more than anyone would need, out there already.

Does anyone notice Elon stopped retweeting Electrek articles, even good ones, for a while now? There are plenty of others around, Clean Technica, Teslarati and InsideEVs whose articles Elon still often reweet to his 26 million followers. One thing I can say is one should never bite the hand that feeds him.

 

[CarlK]

You are attributing malice to what I think is plain 'driving by the seat of the pants' without thinking too much.

The whole store closing announcement fiasco and AP price drop is an example.

Sort of like that (no malicious intentions) but I actually have an even better explanation. That's just how very smart people do things. He soon changed his mind after he heard feed back from store employees for store closing for example. He mentioned he could not release the info to them before it's actually announced.

See these two articles.

Quote by Ralph Waldo Emerson: “A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of littl...”

Billionaire Jeff Bezos: People who are 'right a lot' make decisions differently than everyone else—here's how

And didn't we see those "little minds" everyday and everywhere?

 

[anthonyj]

Another problem is his "takes" seem to be random thoughts not even follow the main (unverified) story. A lot times I have no idea how he drew those conclusions.

He takes birth control pills and thinks they are Tylenol. Idk. He’s such a hormonal mess

 

[R.S]

So...Tesla is accurate?

Elon is accurate?

Tesla is not equal to Elon. Their financial statements are a lot different, than what Elon says in a tweet, or an interview.

That probably has two reasons:
1) If Elon tweets, he doesn’t seem to think too much about what he just tweeted. The same goes for an interview, or a Q&A by analysts. But that’s totally normal for most people. If you get ask something you didn’t have time to prepare for, you will answer differently, than if you had lots of time to think about it.

2) Financial numbers are much easier falsified, than general statements, or predictions. So Elon might somewhat overestimate things on purpose, but the same thing doesn’t work with revenue statements. In one case it’s a hyperbole, or being optimistic, in the other case it’s a felony.

 

[googlepeakoil]

Don't worry, Insideevs has usurped the Tesla cheerleader crown from Fred! They must now be getting bankrolled by pro-TSLA peeps, because they do nothing but shower praise on Tesla now.

Sorry, no, Teslarati take the grand price for ass-kissing. Elon could kill a puppy and they'd spin it that it was a dangerous dog, had eyes on a baby, and he should get a medal.

 

[CarlK]

CleanTechnica is the new king imo but in a good way. Take a look at its analyses and compare them to Fred's "takes" for technical and logical competency, regardless of which side they (or you) are on. One is like having a graduate degree and the other is like have not finished the middle school.

 

[Electroman]

Sorry, no, Teslarati take the grand price for ass-kissing. Elon could kill a puppy and they'd spin it that it was a dangerous dog, had eyes on a baby, and he should get a medal.

.. and what is wrong with that?. Teslarati as the name implies is there to provide Tesla centric news.

 

[anthonyj]

That's funny. Elon gets interviewed by TONS of people.

Hey...I was just checking the stock price.....

Ahem......

6/3/19
The Garlan Bottom