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front suspension aggressively squeaking

dmurphy

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Control arm ball joints are not a maintenance item. On any car. Ever.

Errr..... no.

I'll agree that, today, many (but not all) new cars come with sealed ball joints. But that's a fairly recent development. "Chassis lube" historically has always included ball joint greasing. Even as recent as the late 90s, maybe early 00's even - chassis lubrication, including ball joints, was listed in the maintenance schedule on most vehicles.

So to say it's not a maintenance item on any car, ever? Flat out incorrect.
 

afadeev

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I'll agree that, today, many (but not all) new cars come with sealed ball joints. But that's a fairly recent development.

Perhaps we need to become more specific with terms we use. What is "recent"?
I've been driving and DIY-ing on cars since mid-90s, and have never had to perform any maintenance on any of the ball joints, bushings, or bearings. Ever.
They all work until they fail, then you replace them.

The only exception are track cars and track parts, where you replace perfectly good stock with over-engineered / over-priced noisier and squeakier alternatives, and over-maintain everything. But that's another category of care altogether.

"Chassis lube" historically has always included ball joint greasing. Even as recent as the late 90s, maybe early 00's even - chassis lubrication, including ball joints, was listed in the maintenance schedule on most vehicles.

To be exact, all the cars I've owned were either German or Japanese engineered and manufactured.
None ever needed or required "chassis lube", "anti-rust undercoating", or "muffler bearing" replacements.
Those phrases have been reserved for use as corny garage and bedroom jokes.

Perhaps, "chassis lube" was a "thing" with sloppily designed and manufactured US vehicles?

So to say it's not a maintenance item on any car, ever? Flat out incorrect.

OK, lets call it EV-only maintenance item, and start tracking it in the cost/benefit of EV vs. ICE ownership?
 
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dedas101

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Tesla needs to have a recall or keep this under warranty. I had the same issue happen from one day to the next with significant annoying squeaking overnight. Two weeks to have service but they already knew the issue and planned the repair with the front bilateral control arms with the exact explanation. $800+ outside of warranty. Only 25K and Oct 2018 received.
 
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afadeev

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Does anyone know what warranty, if any, the control arm replacement carries?
Based on the language in my invoice for in-warranty control arms replacement, you get either +12 months on the replacement parts, or the remainder of your basic 4 yr/50,000 mile warranty, whichever is longer:

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I don't know how long the replacements (part #s: 1044326-00-J and 1044321-00-J) will last, but my originals crapped out at 28K miles.

HTH,
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rainforest

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I asked SC to replace both control arms, but they are only willing to reseal. I guess nothing I can do to get them to replace?
 

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afadeev

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I asked SC to replace both control arms, but they are only willing to reseal. I guess nothing I can do to get them to replace?

Sure there is.
1). Do NOT approve this initial estimate.
2). Message the SC that you do NOT accept lubing as a solution, and want both control arms replaced.

"Must push lube" is Elon's latest money saving trick.
You, and your SC techs, can overcome it, but it will require some persistence on your part.

More info in this post: front suspension aggressively squeaking
 
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sealing / lubing the control arms is a band-aid with the only goal to close out your warranty claim for the least amount of $ and... have it fail next time outside of warranty. the lubing / sealing doesnt fix a faulty design ... hence later production models are already on the 4th or 5th iteration of a control arm with changes.
 
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