I am new to Tesla (so I am prepared to have to remove my foot from my mouth here, but take it easy on me). What would the appeal be of this car really over a non-founder version. From what I have seen only a real Tesla enthusiast would even know to look for the "Founder" markings on the outside and cluster and that same enthusiast likely would know you were not the founder who the car was made for. In return, you pay a premium for said markings (and the low VIN, which is admittedly cool, but not noticeable to anyone who does not look at the VIN plate) and you get a car that likely has worse fit and finish compared to a car built a 6 months ago or even more so, a brand new one. Is there something else you get that I am missing? I feel the same way about the Signature cars too. I am looking at this from a buyer's perspective, so please do not think I am saying Signature owners are idiots. I am just wondering why it would make sense to pay more for a car that was somewhat inferior to a later production. To me, the sweet spot to buy a car right now is a car made jest before the August price increases that had the Ambient lighting, Alcantara Headliner and seat bolsters, rear spoiler, wood or CF dash, etc at no extra charge and the cheaper Pano roof, wheel upgrade, etc. In particular a P85+ made in those few months before that changed would be ideal since you are looking at a lower MSRP to negotiate from while getting the latest updates (except the rear heated seats and parking sensors, if those were on your must have list). Please do not take it as a troll post, it's really not. I just want to know if I am missing something and surely you guys/gals know a lot more than me!!