valem
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Did you self upgrade the cameras or Tesla SC did it ?
What does this mean ? How do you "head down to tesla parts"
"I will head down to tesla parts tomorrow and upgrade the B-pillar cameras"
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What does this mean ? How do you "head down to tesla parts"
"I will head down to tesla parts tomorrow and upgrade the B-pillar cameras"
The triple cam is a restricted part meaning Tesla must install and calibrate. All other cameras can be purchased at Tesla parts department. Triple cam was like $200 installed and $130 for each side repeater cams.
Please report back! If you can do it before Friday that would be great info to have from the next rollout but obviously that’s under your own discretion. But it would confirm a possible solution if we still don’t get it but your car does.
Can you please DM the invoice for these upgrades? SC is claiming that they have now way to charge or bill for this work. Having the codes they used when charging you for this would help me greatly.
KArnold
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Retweeted and responded. Anyone who cares about this should do the same. Let’s keep the pressure up until we get some answers. Good or bad news I just want to know if driving on safety score is wasting our time.
Tesla should be paying for these upgrades if that is the path Tesla is going not including our cars in FSD.
I totally agree with you originally I bought them for color in the cam video's.
Please, please, please, tell us how you bought them. My SC denied my request for this.
Heading to service center in a bit and will get my purchase receipts.etc. Also have to check if this TSB was done when they upgrade my front triple camera https://www.tsbsearch.com/Tesla/SB-17-17-002 Which service center denied you?
I want to acknowledge the question, but don't want to speak about my exact location outside DMs.
My vehicle is outside the date range for that TSB.
I think I may have read somewhere that the side repeater cameras were made restricted parts fairly recently but I could be wrong.
Thanks for confirming. It does seem like technically, FSD Beta should work at least reasonable well compared to those with newer cameras, so maybe Tesla has other concerns about deploying such as potentially especially erratic behavior from neural network mispredictions as training data might have mostly been from different cameras. However, they should be able to test that in shadow mode or even just deploy with additional warning for the hardware configuration. Unless there is some known issue that's too unsafe to send to customers.
My originally HW 2.0 car is reliably worse at determining light color than my Model 3, especially at night. In intersections that I've crossed, especially with yellow blinking lights, my Model 3 go through them with a gentle accelerator press, while my S goes into full panic thinking the lights are red. Same intersections at the same time of day produce different results, and that's for a feature that's supposedly released and has revenue recognized against it.
I’m totally fine with knowing my hardware is not compatible yet and to wait for more training but this just needs to be communicated so we can stop with the safety score nonsense if it’s futile in the end.
Anecdotal but I’ve not had a single issue with stop light control in my AP2.0 Model S, it’s actually one of the most reliable features out of the entire suite for me. Never blown a light or misread yellow for red. It appropriately times the yellows too and will go through if it’s already close enough.
Maybe your vehicle is in need of that TSB?
The intersections in question for me are those that are known R-Y-G when operating normally during the day, but at off-peak / night times, they operate in a blinking red or blinking yellow depending on the direction. These are instances where context clues like whether this light current lit is above or below the last light are not available, and must entirely rely on color. Daytime with normal operating modes work properly, yes, but at night and in any blinking situations, it is reliably incorrect when my other car isnt.
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