Brentt
Member
I think Elon said in one of the conference calls, FSD would Maybe/Probably require a new computer. The model 3 is designed to plug and play, so this could be the cost of the new computer, and swap out.
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d21mike
Active Member
I do not think the AP Computer (which Elon is talking about) is the same computer as the MCU 1/2.
It was only EAP that they promised would be ready by December 2016 (but only actually released a tiny portion of AP to less than 1000 cars to claim they made the deadline, but most of us at the time didn't see any features for weeks afterwards), which still has yet to reach AP1 parity (missing truck/motorcycle detection and reading speed limit signs, not to mention nag-gate if one considers that a regression). I fully support their decision to increase the post-delivery price to $5k for NEW orders, but current owners should be locked in to what was claimed as the "post-delivery price", or at least be given a notice before the price increases.
Maximilien
Member
Wow, some of you guys have so good memory!
But still, I swear that on October 15th announcement and FSD video footage kinda implied it would have rolled out soon after EAP.
Very few people had expected at that time that if would take more than 1 year and half.
JeffK
Well-Known Member
They really never meant to imply that, they just wanted to demo what was possible with the hardware. The concept at the time was that all Teslas would come with the hardware necessarily for FSD.
Electrek is reporting that Tesla said they would honor the $4k FSD upgrade price to existing owners:
Tesla increases price of its ‘Full Self-Driving Capability’ over-the-air update
Tesla increases price of its ‘Full Self-Driving Capability’ over-the-air update
This was actually kind of sneaky…..
This is the wording at the time of AP2 announcement in October 2016:
Here is what it says now:
Note the last line. You can easily make an argument how the older wording implied that all Enhanced Autopilot features would roll out by December 2016, and now the new wording more reflects reality….[/QUOTE]
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I guess it's meant to persuade more people to buy FSD now, instead of waiting. Now it's a 2k penalty, instead of a 1k penalty.
As hard as it is to admit, I guess I will now consider buying FSD upfront, if they have rolled out some functionality, as mundane as it might be by the time I will get mine. With EU Tesla premiums and taxes, I don't know if the 100% penalty increase is really worth the lowered risk.
Before I was rather sure about waiting until it adds some worthy capabilities, now I'm leaning more towards buying right away.
As hard as it is to admit, I guess I will now consider buying FSD upfront, if they have rolled out some functionality, as mundane as it might be by the time I will get mine. With EU Tesla premiums and taxes, I don't know if the 100% penalty increase is really worth the lowered risk.
Before I was rather sure about waiting until it adds some worthy capabilities, now I'm leaning more towards buying right away.
KhoaPhan
Member
Beside that $2K penalty for adding it later, should we consider getting a different tax rate too?
I'm in Texas and car sale tax is 6.25% and State sale tax is 8.25%.
I heard if you add it now, it will be rolled into your finance car sale tax of 6.25%. If you want to add it later...it will be tax differently, it will be tax as a sale tax for a "feature" at 8.25% on top of that $5000!
So $5000 + 8.25% = $5412.50 if you later decide to add it after delivery. Or just $3000 + 6.25% = $3187.50 now...saving $2225 in the long run.
Once we add EAP and FSD, it is forever tied to the car VIN, correct? Guess it will help with the resale value?
I just added that $3K FSD too.
I'm in Texas and car sale tax is 6.25% and State sale tax is 8.25%.
I heard if you add it now, it will be rolled into your finance car sale tax of 6.25%. If you want to add it later...it will be tax differently, it will be tax as a sale tax for a "feature" at 8.25% on top of that $5000!
So $5000 + 8.25% = $5412.50 if you later decide to add it after delivery. Or just $3000 + 6.25% = $3187.50 now...saving $2225 in the long run.
Once we add EAP and FSD, it is forever tied to the car VIN, correct? Guess it will help with the resale value?
I just added that $3K FSD too.
Knightshade
Well-Known Member
That math seems to ignore the car loan interest you are now paying on the $3187.50 (since you mentioned rolling it into car financing)
Many people have confirmed that this is a mistake. Tesla says they will have it fixed in the next few weeks. Here is the response I got about it:
“Thanks for reaching out. The cost of full self driving will go back to $4000 for anyone who purchased the car before 6/26/18. I cannot say exactly when the change will be reflected in your account but I do know that some of my colleagues are working on it. If you do not see a change within the next couple of weeks please let us know. “
KhoaPhan
Member
Good catch! So it will be a bit more depending on financing but overall will still be less than tacking on that $2K later. Thanks for pointing that out.
eprosenx
Active Member
So I configured my car on 4/18/18. It was delivered 7/3/18. So what do you guys think the response above meant by "purchased"? I am assuming I am good for the $4k upgrade and not the $5k upgrade? It was only ever presented to me that it would be $4k after the fact.
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