The sad part is that we get this information from some creepy Uncle Bill guy instead of a legit Tesla representative... or EM.
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FSD Beta 10.12
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Todd Burch
14-Year Member
I wouldn’t call 100,000 testers a limited group, in that it’s not small.
However, technically it is limited because it is not the full group of people who WANT to test.
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diplomat33
Average guy who loves autonomous vehicles
I could be wrong but I don't think the initial release of 10.12 will go to 100,000 testers. Elon says the initial release will only go to testers with high safety scores. So 10.12 will probably go to a smaller group first and then expand for there.
After all, who knows what Tesla is tracking with the FSD Beta data, maybe they somehow rank us all based on reports/miles on FSD/disengagements/etc...
ChaoticNeutral
Member
I report something almost every drive still, and usually have one or two take overs (especially if I’m driving home, because the main road by my home still confuses FSD even with solid lines) - I’ve been on the slower update path (a day or two behind the tweets from other testers) the past couple of updates it seems, when I used to get them right at release.
I almost think it may anti-intervention bias. I mean, I never have a zero intervention drive, not only because after 7 revisions FSD beta still can't turn into or out of my neighborhood, but because I keep a tight grip on the wheel and don't let it get itself into trouble. I don't think I would ever let it curb the tires like it did for that model S in the Twitter video.
There's definitely a core group of about 10,000 beta testers that seem to get every release first, and only every third revision or so seems to go out to the wider 60,000 or 100,000 group of beta testers. Just hard to square those two groups to Elon's comments in re. 10.12.
There's definitely a core group of about 10,000 beta testers that seem to get every release first, and only every third revision or so seems to go out to the wider 60,000 or 100,000 group of beta testers. Just hard to square those two groups to Elon's comments in re. 10.12.
It has never been confirmed that my name is Bill.
Back on topic.. kinda.
My experiences line up so well with what others have reported with this version of FSD that I just don't have anything to add, unfortunately.
Looking forward to the next round of entertainment...
What experiences do you have with this version if this version isn’t out yet? Or am I missing something lol
diplomat33
Average guy who loves autonomous vehicles
So, they are really doing all the Beta 11 improvements in 10.x and reserving 11 for "single stack". Good move. Get all the important updates first and leave the marketing ones for later.
From the 11 thread here are the important improvements I've noted.
- Object permanence both temporal and spatial <-- This has been started in earlier releases
- Moving from “bag of points” to objects in NN <-- This has been started in earlier releases
- Creating a 3D vector representation of the environment all in NN <-- This is getting done in 10.12
- Planner optimization using NN / Monte Carlo Tree Search (MCTS)
- Change from processed images to “photon count” / raw image <-- This has been started in earlier releases
- Change from single image perception to surround video <-- This is getting done in 10.12
- Merging of city, highway and parking lot stacks a.k.a. Single Stack
PACEMD
Active Member
So on Friday, Elon says the update will probably be Wed/Thurs. I don't think that boy understands how days of the week work. No wonder FSD-beta keeps going backward, on side streets.........with the blinkers on.........
Hopefully the extra debugging means we get 10.12 and not 10.12.2 in another like 4 weeks…
He didn't say NEXT Wed/Thurs. There are 52 Wed/Thurs in a year to choose from.
PACEMD
Active Member
Right, and therein lies the joke. It's a good one alright...........He didn't say NEXT Wed/Thurs. There are 52 Wed/Thurs in a year to choose from.
While 10.11.2 (moderator edit) has some improvements one regression has been a surprise. On the highway when the right hand lane widens from an on ramp FSD/NoA fairly consistently tries to use the wider lane when it shouldn't and then jerks back when the wider lane narrows. Very odd. Have others seen it? Similar to how NoA handled this situation when first released.
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boonedocks
MS LR Blk/Blk 19”
No one here (other than if a Tesla inside engineer employee is trolling) has 10.12. It is “supposed” to be released later this week if debugging goes well. That was from Elon so take it with a huge non-commitment
PACEMD
Active Member
We do have some time traveling reviewers..........they seem to be just as accurate, if not more so, than the real-time reviews.
By the way, they mostly use FTT (full-time travel) software, but that's a different thread.
By the way, they mostly use FTT (full-time travel) software, but that's a different thread.
sleepydoc
Well-Known Member
So I just got a strike against me yesterday. I was using FSD and suddenly I got the red steering wheel of death. The screen may have flashes blue without my noticing because it was late afternoon and I was driving into the sun, but there were definitely no beeps or any other warnings. Has anyone else had this problem? I had a problem with random time outs several months ago (last fall) but it seemed like they had fixed the issue. Until now.
Happened to me on 10.10.2. No warning just red flash of death. So I disengaged and it noted a strike against me. But I’m not sure if it was reset in 10.11.2 because I don’t see the strike message anymore
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