It's really too bad that people were mashing the Report button so much that Tesla removed it from the vast majority of the fleet.
@ACPark and myself are experiencing a horrible flaw that needs to be reported; having a traffic light being shown as flashing red and green at the same time isn't ideal. Not having a way to report it is even less so.
If only there were a forum for FSDb "testers" (I mean, are we *really* testers at this point, or just gatherers of data?) to make Tesla aware of issues like this that they otherwise would never know existed.
I still stand by my recent exuberance on how much progress has been made, but I am left wondering how much *more* progress has been left on the table due to how poorly run this whole "beta" has been; IMHO at this point in time (December 2, 2022) we could be much further down the road (please forgive the pun) toward an actual release product if Tesla had been more professional in their running of the entire beta program.
Not only have they not opened a forum for Beta testers to discuss issues, educate other testers, inform Tesla of issues, etc., they have now closed off the only avenue we had of reporting potentially serious problems.
The hubris Tesla has shown by taking the "we know what's wrong, and we alone will be in charge of collecting the data we need" attitude has not served them well, and will not continue to do so in the future. I've been involved in many beta programs over the years, from both the development (I was involved in developing an in-house software maintenance tracking program to prevent our planes from sitting on the ground on January 1, 2000) and user side, and I am NOT impressed.
I have been trying to get into the "pole position" at lights I know this is a problem at when the light is red to see if the car would run it or not, but haven't been successful yet. Honestly, I'm not sure I really should do this, as there isn't a point to it; I can't report the findings to anyone other than the people on this forum. Tesla has shown they don't care, so why should I?
TL;DR: Great progress has been made. Greater progress *could* have been made if Tesla's hubris and unprofessional running of this program hadn't hobbled it.
@ACPark and myself are experiencing a horrible flaw that needs to be reported; having a traffic light being shown as flashing red and green at the same time isn't ideal. Not having a way to report it is even less so.
If only there were a forum for FSDb "testers" (I mean, are we *really* testers at this point, or just gatherers of data?) to make Tesla aware of issues like this that they otherwise would never know existed.
I still stand by my recent exuberance on how much progress has been made, but I am left wondering how much *more* progress has been left on the table due to how poorly run this whole "beta" has been; IMHO at this point in time (December 2, 2022) we could be much further down the road (please forgive the pun) toward an actual release product if Tesla had been more professional in their running of the entire beta program.
Not only have they not opened a forum for Beta testers to discuss issues, educate other testers, inform Tesla of issues, etc., they have now closed off the only avenue we had of reporting potentially serious problems.
The hubris Tesla has shown by taking the "we know what's wrong, and we alone will be in charge of collecting the data we need" attitude has not served them well, and will not continue to do so in the future. I've been involved in many beta programs over the years, from both the development (I was involved in developing an in-house software maintenance tracking program to prevent our planes from sitting on the ground on January 1, 2000) and user side, and I am NOT impressed.
I have been trying to get into the "pole position" at lights I know this is a problem at when the light is red to see if the car would run it or not, but haven't been successful yet. Honestly, I'm not sure I really should do this, as there isn't a point to it; I can't report the findings to anyone other than the people on this forum. Tesla has shown they don't care, so why should I?
TL;DR: Great progress has been made. Greater progress *could* have been made if Tesla's hubris and unprofessional running of this program hadn't hobbled it.