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I would assume MCU3, plus limiting it to S & X as a premium model perk.I wish for once Tesla wasn’t vague as sugar with their description of that Steam release YouTube video….. “brings thousands of games to new Model S & X vehicles”…. What in the hell is considered “new”?
I hope so. M3P and MYP got track mode, while my “premium” MS didn’t. 2021 models also got robbed on the tilting screen that was supposed to be a thing. We better not miss out on Steam as well.I would assume MCU3, plus limiting it to S & X as a premium model perk.
This whole nag discussion makes me wonder why I rarely get them as long as I hold the wheel like I've done for years. Not sure why so many are obsessed by this topic.Yeah if this is actually true, it's kind of garbage. It should be possible to drive the car and never see a nag. But if that requires alternating torque that's pretty annoying, particularly on freeway drives.
We'll see. As I said repeatedly, I'm not 100% sure of my observations; nowhere close. Just started paying attention, so limited sample size and opportunity to check the details (it might even work differently when on the freeway - my observation about the alternating torque was on a surface street).
I have on of these to rest my hand on and never had a problem.This whole nag discussion makes me wonder why I rarely get them as long as I hold the wheel like I've done for years. Not sure why everyone is so obsessed by this topic.
This whole nag discussion makes me wonder why I rarely get them as long as I hold the wheel like I've done for years. Not sure why so many are obsessed by this topic.
This whole nag discussion makes me wonder why I rarely get them as long as I hold the wheel like I've done for years. Not sure why so many are obsessed by this topic.
I can put a finger on the yoke and it satisfies wheel nag...it doesn't take much. Maybe something is wrong with yours?You either don’t live in a flat state with straight roads or are just lucky. I rest my left hand on the yoke all the time and still get nags non stop. Maybe my puny hands don’t provide enough torque.
Also constantly looking at the dash to check for nags before they turn red and whiny is super annoying, considering my speed is set, and I’m paying attention to the road and other drivers outside of the car.
Right, but can you avoid nags entirely?I can put a finger on the yoke and it satisfies wheel nag...it doesn't take much. Maybe something is wrong with yours?
I don't get any nags unless I check my phone, but even then I can check my phone on the charger while keeping my head straight and not get nags.Right, but can you avoid nags entirely?
That’s the goal. Note: as far as I can tell, applying fairly steady torque to the wheel by hand (unbalanced of course), does not work. It should! (And there isn’t any technical barrier to that not working.)
Can verify for yourself; description and tentative claims above.
The issue is resting the so called finger doesn’t necessarily satisfy/prevent the nags from happening. You have to play whack-a-mole with them by constantly looking at the dash and then applying more force with the mentioned finger.I can put a finger on the yoke and it satisfies wheel nag...it doesn't take much. Maybe something is wrong with yours?
I do not experience that almost 17k miles using NoA/FSD Beta.The issue is resting the so called finger doesn’t necessarily satisfy/prevent the nags from happening. You have to play whack-a-mole with them by constantly looking at the dash and then applying more force with the mentioned finger.
What car model?I do not experience that almost 17k miles using NoA/FSD Beta.
I don't get any nags unless I check my phone,
Yes. I suspect I could avoid them entirely if I periodically (every 30-60 seconds) alter the torque I apply to the wheel. This would be annoying and distracting of course and add to driver burden.Are you saying you still get nags with consistent wheel torque and looking forward?
Well, try to think a little differently.In general nags in 10.69.3.1 are pretty infrequent (once every few minutes) when paying attention to the road with both hands on the wheel.
I perceived that maybe they are more frequent if you use the touch screen or take a hand off the wheel or divert gaze.
For my prior method of constantly torquing the wheel, I've noticed it doesn't really work, and this is pretty annoying and makes me wonder about the sophistication of their wheel weight defeat sensing.
Specifically, if I am actively torquing the wheel, it will still come up and bug me about torquing the wheel. If I increase torque in the SAME direction, it won't satisfy the nag. If I release the torque and let the wheel free, it of course doesn't satisfy the nag. I have to torque in the opposite direction to clear the nag.
I have to do a bit more testing of this observation (obviously all observations are subject to error). Others could also test this.
But anyway, this makes sense if they're trying to detect wheel weights in a primitive fashion. Though I can't explain why an increase in torque in the same direction would not be sufficient - unless they have simple binary sensing of applied torque and direction (which I doubt - they must have more info). Anyway pretty sad they're not being much more sophisticated, if these observations are actually correct (not clear, as I said - could be completely wrong).
Anyway, just observations, needs to be carefully confirmed, and I could be wrong. I do have video of this but of course it is hard to tell exactly what I am doing with the wheel so it's kind of pointless to watch.
But anyway, this basically means I am no longer planning to torque the wheel continuously to satisfy nags - since it's not clear it helps unless I am alternating torque frequently (I need to check this scenario to see if that condition ensures I never see a nag - I don't know how the "timer" works or whether a timer for last torque application even exists).
I've never paid that close attention to clearing the nags, how they work, and what is required for clearing them, since they don't really bother me and I don't have a problem with them. So maybe this is covering old ground.
2022 MS LR. I also have a 2021 MY with Beta (I've had 2 with Beta). I almost exclusively used a wheel weight until recently and could make a whole trip without a nag. I've never used a weight with my MS, but it's easy enough to rest a hand on it.What car model?
I don't have anything setup to record myself, but I drove to Atlanta from Columbia SC last week and didn't see one nag the entire trip. My wife handled my phone and music and I honestly just don't look for them. So they could pop up, but I don't notice. I don't have any strikes on either car.Absolutely zero? Can you provide a video showing this on a 20-minute drive on surface streets?
Yes. I suspect I could avoid them entirely if I periodically (every 30-69 seconds) alter the torque I apply to the wheel.
Definitely when looking forward on surface streets nags are quite infrequent. But a reasonable objective would be to have zero, when looking forward and applying consistent modest torque.
Nags on AP are not covered here. No idea how they work.
but if I rest a hand or even fingers on the yoke and look forward...I don't. I
I don't have any strikes on either car.
f your hands are on the steering wheel and watching the road, you will try to steer the car according to the road conditions. This steering intend should correspond to what FSD beta is trying to do
you will get little
Just tried to make a video of my hand resting on the yoke, while me looking straight at the road, but got dinged by this steamy load of sugar to “pay attention”