FSD Beta v11.x

The next big milestone for FSD is 11. It is a significant upgrade and fundamental changes to several parts of the FSD stack including totally new way to train the perception NN.

From AI day and Lex Fridman interview we have a good sense of what might be included.

- Object permanence both temporal and spatial
- Moving from “bag of points” to objects in NN
- Creating a 3D vector representation of the environment all in NN
- Planner optimization using NN / Monte Carlo Tree Search (MCTS)
- Change from processed images to “photon count” / raw image
- Change from single image perception to surround video
- Merging of city, highway and parking lot stacks a.k.a. Single Stack

Lex Fridman Interview of Elon. Starting with FSD related topics.

Here is a detailed explanation of Beta 11 in "layman's language" by James Douma, interview done after Lex Podcast.

Here is the AI Day explanation by in 4 parts.

Deep Understanding Tesla FSD Part 1: HydraNet

From Theory to Reality, Analyze the Evolution of Tesla Full Self-Driving

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Here is a useful blog post asking a few questions to Tesla about AI day. The useful part comes in comparison of Tesla's methods with Waymo and others (detailed papers linked).

Twelve Questions about Tesla Autopilot Technologies Exposed at 2021 AI Day

On Aug. 19 2021, Telsa held an AI day , exposing more technologies about Autopilot , from perception, planning, data labeling, simulation…

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[Dennisis]

That's great - the functionality i paid for at purchase isn't available and no-one informed me of that .

Many of us paid for it years ago and only recently got it so there's that...

 

[navels]

This "daily update check" that folks are talking about . . . does this just mean going to the Controls > Software screen?

 

[D Good]

This "daily update check" that folks are talking about . . . does this just mean going to the Controls > Software screen?

Yes

 

[jj3884]

This "daily update check" that folks are talking about . . . does this just mean going to the Controls > Software screen?

Yeah, awhile back you can only manually check every 24 hours. If you go back in between it doesn't appear to check anymore and the date doesn't advance

 

[JulienW]

Chucky baby ain't been playing around on getting V11 videos out. So.....

EDIT: Chuck's driving not looking so good. NHTSA won't like it.

 

[JulienW]

Just to add on checking software for updates. Unless you are in the queue it is only placebo. It seems to only be useful in small point bug fix releases that are not rolled out slowly. On a major rollout like we are getting (probably the biggest version release in Beta ever) checking will just be "anticipation" and "disappointment" at best.

EDIT: Of course having said that I did check mine this morning.

But if you do the "praise be to Elon" dance 5x around your car before you check then it may work.

 

[kylinblue]

No luck yet, just burned my daily update check on 2022.44.30.10. I’m not usually impatient with updates but really hoping this gets pushed wider very soon.

It sat on ~20 cars for the last 12 hours. So nothing of value was lost. Still holding on my daily check

 

[navels]

Checked . . . no joy.

 

[dramsey]

That "wide rollout" this weekend not looking so wide, is it?

 

[Sameer]

Were you an og tester, 100% safety score, or got beta after safety score ended?
Or a youtuber?

Neither...

I had fsd beta after it was opened to 98% safety score.
I have never ever gotten a patch early.. this is the first time.

The merged stack is amazing.. car did much better even on highways. One issue - on exit ramps the car does not slow up.. so I had to take control.

Overall I think there are improvements.

 

[EVNow]

It sat on ~20 cars for the last 12 hours. So nothing of value was lost. Still holding on my daily check

Not surprised. They are going to wait until a large number of those cars drive on 11 and they get back some data. The data will help them decide on further roll out - atleast, that is how it should be

 

[FSDtester#1]

That "wide rollout" this weekend not looking so wide, is it?

I said it would happen wide last night, I forgot to mention I was in another time zone then most of you, so that means tonight for everyone else

 

[EVNow]

Installed + waiting is 42 on Teslafi. Unless this number changes, no further rollouts should be expected.

 

[kylinblue]

Installed + waiting is 42 on Teslafi. Unless this number changes, no further rollouts should be expected.

When V11 finally drops in year 20023

 

[Joboo7777]

Just to add on checking software for updates. Unless you are in the queue it is only placebo. It seems to only be useful in small point bug fix releases that are not rolled out slowly. On a major rollout like we are getting (probably the biggest version release in Beta ever) checking will just be "anticipation" and "disappointment" at best.

EDIT: Of course having said that I did check mine this morning.

But if you do the "praise be to Elon" dance 5x around your car before you check then it may work.

All you have to do to unlock FSDb 11 is:

Go to Emissions Testing in Toolbox and play the follow fart sounds in this order:

Not a Fart x1
Short Shorts Ripper x2
Falcon Heavy x1
Ludicrous Fart x2
I'm so random x3

UNLOCKED!

 

[jeremymc7]

Just to add on checking software for updates. Unless you are in the queue it is only placebo. It seems to only be useful in small point bug fix releases that are not rolled out slowly. On a major rollout like we are getting (probably the biggest version release in Beta ever) checking will just be "anticipation" and "disappointment" at best.

EDIT: Of course having said that I did check mine this morning.

But if you do the "praise be to Elon" dance 5x around your car before you check then it may work.

Yeah it won’t force an update you’re not scheduled to get. However it can get it to you sooner. I’ve got several updates available after checking; be it a point or major release. Obviously the more you check it the less you’ll get a polite result.

That said as far as beta goes whenever I’ve seen a thousand or more people waiting for beta and I go check it’s been pretty good chance it then says it’s ready. What’s the difference I have no idea maybe a few hours sooner?

 

[Konicom04]

Neither...

I had fsd beta after it was opened to 98% safety score.
I have never ever gotten a patch early.. this is the first time.

The merged stack is amazing.. car did much better even on highways. One issue - on exit ramps the car does not slow up.. so I had to take control.

Overall I think there are improvements.

SO, these FSD updates are somehow tied to the safety score?
What if someone isn't using Tesla Insurance ?

 

[jeremymc7]

SO, these FSD updates are somehow tied to the safety score?
What if someone isn't using Tesla Insurance ?

No. That’s not the case.

 

[Supcom]

SO, these FSD updates are somehow tied to the safety score?
What if someone isn't using Tesla Insurance ?

FSD beta is no longer using the Safety Score.

 

[GSP]

That "wide rollout" this weekend not looking so wide, is it?

"Start of" wide rollout. Going per plan it will take months to finish.

GSP

PS. Just kidding (I hope!)