TMC is an independent, primarily volunteer organization that relies on ad revenue to cover its operating costs. Please consider whitelisting TMC on your ad blocker and becoming a Supporting Member. For more info: Support TMC
  1. TMC is currently READ ONLY.
    Click here for more info.

FSD Beta Videos (and questions for FSD Beta drivers)

Discussion in 'Autopilot & Autonomous/FSD' started by n.one.one, Oct 25, 2020.

  1. manitou820

    manitou820 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2013
    Messages:
    124
    Location:
    Colorado
    That left turn would have been an accident had she not stopped the car.
     
    • Like x 1
  2. n.one.one

    n.one.one Member

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2014
    Messages:
    649
    Location:
    Metro Atlanta, GA, USA
    FSD beta handling main roads very well - 4:31
     
    • Like x 1
  3. lpp06

    lpp06 Member

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2020
    Messages:
    39
    Location:
    Tampa
    @7:00:

    Driver: "Making the left...it's staying in the lane. Awesome"

    Narrator: "He in fact, was not staying in the lane."


    What I wonder is that it seems in all these videos, most drivers are staying hands off and letting the vehicle take the time to correct itself - but wouldn't it provide better training data if they were to intervene with the correct and smooth action?
     
    • Funny x 3
    • Like x 1
  4. n.one.one

    n.one.one Member

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2014
    Messages:
    649
    Location:
    Metro Atlanta, GA, USA
    Driving time-lapse w/ new visualizations - 2:18
     
    • Like x 3
  5. n.one.one

    n.one.one Member

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2014
    Messages:
    649
    Location:
    Metro Atlanta, GA, USA
    Plum Canyon to Santa Clarita Superchargers - 2020.40.8.12 - 1 Nov 2020 - 9:53
     
  6. powertoold

    powertoold Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2014
    Messages:
    1,901
    Location:
    USA
    I noticed FSD seemed to have crashed for 1 second at 8:40.

    Screen Shot 2020-11-01 at 8.10.27 PM.png

    Screen Shot 2020-11-01 at 8.10.38 PM.png Screen Shot 2020-11-01 at 8.10.47 PM.png
     

    Attached Files:

    • Informative x 1
    • Like x 1
  7. mhan00

    mhan00 Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2014
    Messages:
    1,051
    Location:
    Southern California
    I honestly think it looks like it has regressed in .12. Not enough videos out to know for sure. And even then it could just be people posting more interventions than they were while on previous versions.
     
  8. Huskyf

    Huskyf Member

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2018
    Messages:
    434
    Location:
    Geneva - CH
    Sorry but the 4 last video I saw no intervention mothing I think great progress on .12
     
  9. n.one.one

    n.one.one Member

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2014
    Messages:
    649
    Location:
    Metro Atlanta, GA, USA
    Left turn at stop sign into free flowing lanes - 2020.40.8.12 - 1 Nov 2020 - 0:57
     
  10. n.one.one

    n.one.one Member

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2014
    Messages:
    649
    Location:
    Metro Atlanta, GA, USA
    Right turn yield lane with merge - 2020.40.8.12 - 1 Nov 2020 - 0:24
     
  11. powertoold

    powertoold Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2014
    Messages:
    1,901
    Location:
    USA
    Elon has said that updates may be two steps forward, one step back.
     
  12. turnem

    turnem Member

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2019
    Messages:
    497
    Location:
    Charlotte, NC
    It is interesting that the pace of the videos has slowed. It could be simply because the individuals are getting tired of publishing them.

    I'm hoping that Brandon shows a new one soon. Mike Land's latest video was discouraging but to the point above... Elon has clearly stated that the updates could regress a little before they get better so I think we just need to give it some time to breathe a little.
     
    • Like x 1
  13. Huskyf

    Huskyf Member

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2018
    Messages:
    434
    Location:
    Geneva - CH
    No but CNN use this videos particulary the bad to attack Tesla and tell to all of the world who is the beta testers with complete names.
    See CNN BUSINESS
     
    • Like x 2
    • Funny x 2
  14. Huskyf

    Huskyf Member

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2018
    Messages:
    434
    Location:
    Geneva - CH
  15. mhan00

    mhan00 Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2014
    Messages:
    1,051
    Location:
    Southern California
    She’s said in another one of her short vids that the car hasn’t been handling left turns well for her since the new update.
     
  16. manitou820

    manitou820 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2013
    Messages:
    124
    Location:
    Colorado
    A left turn across traffic that doesn't stop is going to be one of the most dangerous and difficult situations for FSD. It's a common situation that people will run into pulling out of neighborhood side streets onto busy main streets. Combined with higher speeds (>45mph) and multiple lanes of cross traffic it's challenging.

    How good are the side cameras at picking up high speed traffic from a distance? If the cross traffic is going 45-65mph they would need to detect the traffic from far away and also be able to track multiple layers of cars going in opposite directions.
     
  17. n.one.one

    n.one.one Member

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2014
    Messages:
    649
    Location:
    Metro Atlanta, GA, USA
    Roundabout testing (plus unprotected left) - 3:26
     
    • Love x 4
  18. powertoold

    powertoold Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2014
    Messages:
    1,901
    Location:
    USA
    That video was madness (car was driving like it was pooping itself), especially that unprotected left. Even for humans, that type of unprotected left is problematic.
     
    • Like x 1
  19. turnem

    turnem Member

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2019
    Messages:
    497
    Location:
    Charlotte, NC
    Wow! THAT was nuts! That unprotected left turn was just... crazy! I'm not sure I would've have the cojones to wait that one out without intervening!
     
    • Funny x 2
  20. mspisars

    mspisars Active Member

    Joined:
    May 23, 2014
    Messages:
    2,030
    Location:
    Charlotte, NC
    #120 mspisars, Nov 2, 2020
    Last edited: Nov 2, 2020
    I actually found it impressive (BTW looking at the steering wheel will give you nausea... I try to look at the rendered output and what's out on the road...)
    The car seemed to be able to maintain enough vector info on the objects to compute/calculate that there was no one in the blind spot (behind car #2 in adjacent lane)
    The steering wheel did block a good portion of the screen, I would have loved to see the rendering throughout the left turn.
    upload_2020-11-2_21-17-16.png

    The video description by the driver says "Not perfect, but man have we come a long way!"
    I mean he was in the driver seat... cojones indeed!

    Make sure you switch the video to 1440p/60fp (and if you really want to try to catch it well play at 0.5x speed)
     
    • Like x 6
    • Helpful x 1

Share This Page

  • About Us

    Formed in 2006, Tesla Motors Club (TMC) was the first independent online Tesla community. Today it remains the largest and most dynamic community of Tesla enthusiasts. Learn more.
  • Do you value your experience at TMC? Consider becoming a Supporting Member of Tesla Motors Club. As a thank you for your contribution, you'll get nearly no ads in the Community and Groups sections. Additional perks are available depending on the level of contribution. Please visit the Account Upgrades page for more details.


    SUPPORT TMC