Exactly. If Tesla weren't being such dbags about the whole thing, we wouldn't have to.
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Exactly. If Tesla weren't being such dbags about the whole thing, we wouldn't have to.
powertoold
Active Member
I wonder if Elon hadn't "sold" it the way he did, if FSD would have gotten to where it is now. We all know there's a lot of complacency in the FSD space. No other developer is moving as fast as Tesla. If their approach proves successful, they'll be the only ones who can achieve it for quite a long time.
Elon has had a habit of pushing the boundaries of tech, simply by the way he "sells" / "hypes" things.
I'll show you mine if you show me yours.
mikes_fsd
Banned
Ummmm, not even close.
Lets talk about the lidar crowd, the "these current sensors are not enough" crowd, or the monitoring crowd or the general "it must be done this way" gestapo crowd.
These forums are filled with examples.
jabloomf1230
Minister of Silly Walks
After all this sturm and drang, I'm predicting that after the FSD beta is widely released, there will be people here saying, "I stopped using it. It's too boring."
Chazman92
Member
#FSDBeta 8.2 - 2021.4.11.1 - Obstructed and Unprotected Left Turn Test
so by downvoting everyone critical of this, are you saying that if the cameras get covered by snow or mud, that a Tesla with current sensor suite will continue to drive you around while you sleep in the back??
rxlawdude
Active Member
powertoold
Active Member
This is a silly question. The car would ask you to clear off the sensors before you can activate fsd.
Your question is analogous to asking if someone would drive blind. No, they won't.
yea I mean I agree so why would someone downvote a comment suggesting that you need sensor redundancy?
But anyway, if your “robotaxi” is 100 miles away and covered in snow, or gets bird poop on the front camera suite, you’re SOL. By definition this is an L3 or L4 system at best. Unless redundancy is put in to the sensor suite.
Supposedly they can see through 1" foam, provided you have a couple of grad students in the car with you
Lidar System Delivers Vision Through Clouds and Fog
Using a single-photon avalanche diode that can detect the arrival times of photons down to a single photon, with precision in the tens of trillions of
The car doesn't even come with a spare tire, much less a way to autonomously change a flat tire.
The car can't close a door left open.
The car can't move a big wheel left blocking its path.
"bird poop on the front camera" ... the car actually does have a system to attempt to take care of that.
KArnold
Active Member
Although having the last robo-taxi customer leave the door ajar would be a great way to disable the car potentially many miles away.
powertoold
Active Member
you don’t seem to understand the definition of the levels.
Todd Burch
14-Year Member
Just an observation from someone who’s been driving on the single camera AP system since 2014: The cameras getting covered with snow and mud has been a longtime concern, but after 7 years I’ve still yet to hear of a single incident where a camera has become obstructed like this. It’s probably about as likely as your hood flying up and covering the windshield so YOU can’t see.
Cheburashka
Active Member
I get the cameras blinded by the sun and then AP turns off or is reduced.
Are you kidding? I see a camera obstructed message at least once a week. And that’s JUST from the Sun’s glare.
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