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stopcrazypp
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Criticism/commentary doesn't absolve you of at minimum giving credit and also making it "transformative" (your commentary being the substantial part of the given piece, not the clip itself). This was not the case in the original twitter post that exploded, although subsequent reposts may be closer to that standard.
powertoold
Active Member
We have fsd clips of near misses, bumper hitting pavement, bad curb rashes, yolo'ing into intersections, etc.
I really doubt Tesla is enforcing any media restrictions. Multiple people have mentioned that Tesla doesn't have any video restrictions, only no live streams (and probably accidents).
I really doubt Tesla is enforcing any media restrictions. Multiple people have mentioned that Tesla doesn't have any video restrictions, only no live streams (and probably accidents).
Daniel in SD
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No one else seemed confused that the intent of the tweet was reporting on and criticizing Tesla's FSD testing program.
Where is there a requirement to give credit?
Though it does look like he came close to the girl, it’s somewhat surprising that no one pointed how irresponsible she was by opening her door into the path of an oncoming car. Ultimately he is responsible as driver in control. But what a reckless action from her. I would have stopped and given her a piece of my mind.
powertoold
Active Member
19:46 - looks like a similar situation with Chuck’s red light issues. It sees the adjacent greens and thinks those are the traffic controls so it ignores the red and goes when it needs to stop.
Fine, you're correct in pointing out that wide angle distorts distances and "amplifies distance between objects", ie: objects appear further away than they are. Which makes distance calculations difficult in a distorted image.
Here is an overhead shot with minimal distortion from Google Earth. Approx: 522 N. Ada, Chicago. Example cars placed as best as I can estimate from the video (colours of car irrelevant, they are just cars I grabbed from the satellite image).. Tesla closer to curb car than double-parked car. Google Earth ruler for street width=36'.
Distance between Tesla and Lady's car ~3.6'. Distance between Tesla and open door ~1.3'.
YMMV
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Knightshade
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Various hackers have published info from either the car computer code, or the app code, that's how we know.
Tesla is working on driver 'safety rating' based on driving behaviors and Autopilot use to affect insurance cost
Tesla is currently integrating Autopilot usage and more driving habits into its insurance program to deliver more accurate pricing. According...
electrek.co
The plan is for the app to eventually show you a safety score based on your behavior, and code is already there- but obviously hasn't gone live yet.
Already posted a link (I think in the post you are replying to) discussing some of what other insurance companies are doing on driver monitoring, though I'm unaware of anyone having hacked into their devices for deeper dives, not that I've had any reason to really look)
Terminator857
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Chazman92
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#FSDBeta 10.0.1 St Vincents Round Trip
Its not contradictory, it makes 100% sense when you are trying to control and dictate the narrative. An average FSD beta video is what? 15-25 mins or more?
No one has that time and you lose the gravity of certain failures in the noise of a 30 mins video.
But no its not contradictory. sharing everything is talking about things. This is why he said "social"
For example if someone got into a serious accident with FSD beta today, saying "I got into a accident with FSD beta today" is different than posting the clip of the accident. That's what that means.
There's a reason why Tesla doesn't allow live streaming and its obviously not because of just attention. Tesla already knows its customers do live commentary, they talk to the camera, turn around, explain things, etc.
Its because if there's an accident they can detect it and reach out to the driver immediately and ask them not to release the video because "ppl will use it to hurt Tesla, blah blah blah". And tesla fans being blind loyalists will gladly follow along as proven by Gali.
That would be impossible to stop if things were live-streamed because the internet never forgets. It would be disseminated in seconds... Tesla knows that words have very little weight and then you have a picture that is worth a thousand words, but a video clip will get millions of views. As proven by the DMCA clip getting over 5 million views in about a day. Being retweet by pedestrian safety groups and other groups who never posted anything about Tesla. So the reach of that video clip was wide!
Think about the Waymo video of the cone debacle. How the video got hundreds of thousands of views on YT and spun hundreds of articles spanning millions of reads. This isn't something far fetched as Gali is the one saying it. Plus we know they are in constant communicate with the Beta Tester and constantly email and respond to them and have called each and every beta tester.
powertoold
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Terminator857
Active Member
Thanks that was very entertaining and should be required viewing for anyone wanting to test FSD beta and not wanting to trash their vehicle.
Looks like more Bay Area overfitting for the neural network to predict this lane is a left turn lane, but it seems like Beta 10.0.x is more aggressive in changing out of it to a straight lane even if it needs to switch lanes in the middle of the intersection. The path prediction did briefly show a left turn but it was also in the process of switching right, so it avoided a disengagement.
Notice how the solid white line is visualized just ahead of the vehicle while directly adjacent was still dashed. Typically in California, solid white lines before an intersection separate turn lanes from straight lanes, so FSD Beta believes it's in an outer double left turn lane. This seems to also show how quickly lane change decisions are made -- basically immediately once perception determines the lane properties.
powertoold
Active Member
Too bad he can't wait for 10.1
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