EVNow
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I'm hoping NN will find paths that are more optimal.
It is quite possible the Monte-Carlo simulation-based optimization using NN will not address this particular case.
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It is quite possible the Monte-Carlo simulation-based optimization using NN will not address this particular case.
This is already fixed imo in FSD Beta. This continues to be an issue in regular AP though
EVNow
Well-Known Member
Josh has 7 rounds of FSD Beta vs Waymo. I can't find Round 1 video - but here is round 2.
FSDb on similar situations on local streets don't exhibit this behavior anymore, so I think when single-stack is released, the issue will be gone for highways.
AlanSubie4Life
Efficiency Obsessed Member
Maybe. While it's clearly different, there are a lot of situations (maybe not identical to the one pictured) where FSDb (b) still has problems with correct lane positioning, so I think there's still going to be confusion at times.
EVNow
Well-Known Member
I won’t say it doesn’t - more like, not all the time.
I’ve specific areas near me where half the time it does it.
FSDb swerves right when crossing intersections when in the right lane, so I’m not convinced that approach alone would solve it fully. It’s a bit better in 10.11.2 though so maybe further improvements to the new lane logic will help
Yeah I think the times it seems to swerve on local roads, it's more of a "pick the wrong lane" failure rather than trying to be strict about staying in the center of the space that has opened up, which is the root cause of the problem on the highway. FSDb demonstrates often that staying in the center of the lane is a guideline, not a rule.
EVNow
Well-Known Member
I used to think so too. Not so sure anymore ... in a couple of places it always swerves to the middle and selects the correct lane.
DT had a good drive on 10.12.2. Basically 0 intervention, but he did let the car struggle through a couple of times when it wasn’t really affecting anyone else.
diplomat33
Average guy who loves autonomous vehicles
Apologies if this has already been posted but here is TechGeek Tesla testing FSD beta in heavy thunderstorm, heavy winds and tornado warnings:
Personally, I don't think it is smart to be testing FSD Beta in these conditions.
Personally, I don't think it is smart to be testing FSD Beta in these conditions.
If nobody tests it, we’ll never know how well it works.
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AlanSubie4Life
Efficiency Obsessed Member
What do you mean? I don’t think it did think it was going to hit it. It did show a couple cones but I didn’t see anything in the visualizations indicating it was going to hit the curb.
Probably not enough training on sharp cornered curbs sticking into the road or something. The visualization was all rounded off.
Perception just not good enough.
Looks like quite a few people don’t have good enough perception either, though definitely should not hit this curb. Looks pretty black. Where is this? I see Ave Z but don’t follow all the YouTubers or whatever the video is sourced from.
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AlanSubie4Life
Efficiency Obsessed Member
Found it. Looks like it gets a lot of love.
AlanSubie4Life
Efficiency Obsessed Member
Where is the prediction? What specifically is the indicator? Curbs are always red and there is a cone here so it is definitely visualizing that.
I just don’t see it. Need a bigger original video of course then it should be easier to tell. Tesla guy in New York.
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