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I listened carefully to the whole analyst phone conference.
I am just wondering, if you have a safety score of 100, say, won't that discourage Tesla to issue FSD Beta to you? FSD would certainly not meet your 100 safety score and disappoint you. This waiting game sucks! You pay more than 10K just for seemingly endless wait.
Yes long wait for sure. But the 100 score encourages them to give you the beta because it's hard to keep a 100 score without close attention to your driving. FSD Beta requires close attention as well, but to how the car is driving.
You did not pay 10K for the beta. You paid 10K for FSD Capability (future). It only works on limited access highways at the present time. The FSD on City Streets potion of the package has not been released yet. NO ONE has it. A tiny portion of us here have agreed to be part of an experiment to get it working. But it is hardly finished quality. If you expect your car to work flawlessly, you should not be anxious to get FSD Beta. I am one of those that has it. It makes lots of mistakes, some dangerous. Be Very Careful what you wish for.
Not so very tiny. Among fewer than 20,000 TeslaFi subscribers, currently 4,024 are reported as having the current FSDb release installed on their cars. My estimate is that means about 120,000 North American customers are currently driving around with FSDb installed. Now I don't know just how often each driver does the double-stalk pull, nor do I know how many never found the activation menu item. Nevertheless, there are quite a few of us.
I had the same thought, however, to get to that conclusion we need to assume that the same % of driver that buy FSD also pay for TeslaFi. I thought it is possible that drivers that paid for FSD are more likely to pay for TeslaFi (I'm only calling myself a geek =) Therefore the actual percentage of drivers that got FSD would be less than TeslaFi statistics. Hope it makes sense!
That is a pretty tiny percentage of the 2 million or so teslas on the road here. Though I agree that most of them are probably here on TMC.
That is my point exactly. Out of the totality of Tesla owners, very few are running FSD Beta.
I'm not sure 160,000 is "very few", since this is really about absolute numbers. When testing software there are diminishing returns when you get past a certain number of testers - all you get are redundant reports of the same issues. While testing NNs on something as complex as FSD does need a large test population, my guess is that Tesla are close to saturation point for directed testing. At that point all that is really left is increasing the test population to try to find the very obscure issues (meaning, like it or not for FSD, seeing if it crashes if you give it to pretty much everyone).
Sounds like you may not be fully understanding how the safety score works.
“Tesla Full Self-Driving Beta is now available to anyone in North America who requests it from the car screen, assuming you have bought this option.
Has anyone been able to confirm this happened?
