EVNow
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But, they can use NN to figure out if someone is paying attention
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FSD - hands on wheel?
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EVNow
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Interestingly I was searching to get some comparison of various FSD efforts. I found several articles from around 2015 with almost all companies claiming they will have FSD in several models by 2020.
I'm not trying to be super pedantic but your post has zero context about the number of times Tesla has missed deadlines related to AP and FSD.
Tell that to all the people that bought into AP1 back then.
Jesus, your optimism is nice and all, but with you it`s like Tesla`s long track record of broken promises didn`t exist.
But hey, since I just bought into Tesla shares again I sure hope you`re right.
diplomat33
Average guy who loves autonomous vehicles
Tesla never promised FSD on AP1.
I am not ignoring Tesla's past broken promises but at the end of the day, I prefer to look forward and I still want to get FSD. So I prefer to maintain some optimism rather than complain about something I can't change.
Tesla did promise A LOT more for AP1 than they did deliver though.
Including features of Smart Summon and Navigate on Autopilot. For AP1. Yes.
As for optimism, it is one line of thought that endless optimism and giving a pass for Tesla and Elon for too much has enabled their hubris in a way that at the end of the day is not beneficial for the company or its progress either. A better feedback loop and keeping it real — ie complaining — has its benefits too which too much optimism can mask.
franklandfield
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diplomat33
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I think I read somewhere that it was a prank and the driver was not really asleep. If true, it's incredibly dangerous and foolish, not to mention it gives Tesla a bad rap. People watch these news segments and think AP is dangerous when in reality it is a good system when used responsibly.
Moreover, in the news segment, they say the driver had one of those weights to fool the hands on wheel nag. Those devices are illegal and circumvent how the system is supposed to be used. I know the autopilot buddy got banned. But I wonder if Tesla will be forced to do something in response to these videos. Maybe Tesla could do a software update to change the torque requirement so that these weights won't work anymore?
But frankly, it is videos like this that kinda make me wish Tesla did use the inside camera in the Model 3 to monitor the driver's eyes instead of the wheel nag. I know Musk is against it because he just wants to go straight to self-driving where driver attention is irrelevant. But I think Tesla might really need it anyway. After all, even in the best scenario where Tesla really does achieve L4/5 autonomy at the end of next year, that's still over a year away where idiots can fall asleep on AP and risk a serious accident.
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Sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen. Tesla had the internal camera, knew of the problem, knew of the solution, but decided not to do anything about it.
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